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Old 05-10-2023, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Former LI'er Now Rehoboth Beach, DE
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As a Catholic, who had a lot of connections on LI, I can unequivocally say that Catholic Charities has done a tremendous job caring for and providing food, shelter, medical care, dental care and a host of other things not only for the disadvantaged on LI but for many pregnant, abused women, and their children. They provided care for many without regard for race, religion or creed.

While I am in agreement that the money did not just come from donations from the local churches alone, there are few charitable organizations that did not secure funding as a result of Covid. So did many, many other non charitable organizations, who did nothing in terms of taking on the above described recipients.

The local council of churches and synagogues all worked together to pitch in and do what they could. Catholic Charities assisted many during the aftermath of hurricane Sandy and there was a tremendous need for a long time back then.

So long way of answering you. YES, Catholic Charities is paying for the. Migrants.
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Old 05-10-2023, 09:17 PM
 
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I hope they get put in an abandoned mall. Like this one


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIhrHBOkwew&t=13s
Lol that’s not happening. And the mall still has all the exterior businesses on the outside operating including Macy’s. It’s not totally abandoned.
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Old 05-11-2023, 06:12 AM
 
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The connection between "charities" andvthe government for illegals.

https://nypost.com/2022/07/22/govern...-in-charities/

The Church is a business. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Old 05-11-2023, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Former LI'er Now Rehoboth Beach, DE
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The connection between "charities" andvthe government for illegals.

https://nypost.com/2022/07/22/govern...-in-charities/

The Church is a business. Nothing more, nothing less.
I see you did not answer my post. Enough said. Point.
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Old 05-11-2023, 08:56 AM
 
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I see you did not answer my post. Enough said. Point.
Depends upon what percentage you consider to be "paying" for. If one pays the majority of the cost, I would agree the phrase paying for should be used. However, if you are responsible for a fraction of the cost, the phrase contributing towards seems to be more accurate.

Clearly the govt is paying the major part of it. The Church pays SOME of the expenses in homes of getting fannies in the pews down the road. It is a business investment for them.

My parish brought in a homeless shelter into its abandoned convent. An agency(not Catholic charities or Church related) got paid big bucks to house them. They ran out of homeless in NY so they brought them in from down South like the North Shore Animal League searching for puppies to adopt out. The Church was the landlord who got paid rent for the convent by the agency. The school district got stuck with the bills for educating the students. Church paid nothing in property taxes despite being a landlord. Would you consider that to be a "charitable" act too??

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Old 05-11-2023, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Former LI'er Now Rehoboth Beach, DE
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Depends upon what percentage you consider to be "paying" for. If one pays the majority of the cost, I would agree the phrase paying for should be used. However, if you are responsible for a fraction of the cost, the phrase contributing towards seems to be more accurate.

Clearly the govt is paying the major part of it. The Church pays SOME of the expenses in homes of getting fannies in the pews down the road. It is a business investment for them.

My parish brought in a homeless shelter into its abandoned convent. An agency(not Catholic charities or Church related) got paid big bucks to house them. They ran out of homeless in NY so they brought them in from down South like the North Shore Animal League searching for puppies to adopt out. The Church was the landlord who got paid rent for the convent by the agency. The school district got stuck with the bills for educating the students. Church paid nothing in property taxes despite being a landlord. Would you consider that to be a "charitable" act too??
Sometimes the devil is in the details. Your statements are a little shy on details but bases solely upon what you stated, I would have to say, yes. I will gladly exchange the number of students that a Church/Synogogue related school educates compared to what it would add to your taxes.
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Old 05-11-2023, 06:50 PM
 
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Sometimes the devil is in the details. Your statements are a little shy on details but bases solely upon what you stated, I would have to say, yes. I will gladly exchange the number of students that a Church/Synogogue related school educates compared to what it would add to your taxes.
Our parish closed the school down years ago, so no savings there. Just the kids from the shelter going to public school on tax payer dime while shelter makes money and church acts as slumlord.

Still a "charitable act"?
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Old 05-11-2023, 10:29 PM
 
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As a Catholic, who had a lot of connections on LI, I can unequivocally say that Catholic Charities has done a tremendous job caring for and providing food, shelter, medical care, dental care and a host of other things not only for the disadvantaged on LI but for many pregnant, abused women, and their children. They provided care for many without regard for race, religion or creed.

While I am in agreement that the money did not just come from donations from the local churches alone, there are few charitable organizations that did not secure funding as a result of Covid. So did many, many other non charitable organizations, who did nothing in terms of taking on the above described recipients.

The local council of churches and synagogues all worked together to pitch in and do what they could. Catholic Charities assisted many during the aftermath of hurricane Sandy and there was a tremendous need for a long time back then.

So long way of answering you. YES, Catholic Charities is paying for the. Migrants.
Does the Church and its constituents not realize they are hurting themselves, and other disadvantaged on LI who are legally suppose to be here, by helping out these migrants? If the constituents are aware, they ought to be making hoopla in their local parishes.
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Old 05-12-2023, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Former LI'er Now Rehoboth Beach, DE
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Our parish closed the school down years ago, so no savings there. Just the kids from the shelter going to public school on tax payer dime while shelter makes money and church acts as slumlord.

Still a "charitable act"?
Yes and sorry, life is not that granular. IF "years ago" they dumped all the parochial school students everyone would bear the burden because they would have needed to hire teachers and add classrooms. FWIW, no shelter makes money. But I will no longer try to convince you.
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Old 05-12-2023, 08:00 AM
 
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Lol shelters dont make money. They are literally a cash cow in NY
Maybe not in Delaware, but here they certainly are. The whole sanctuary state thing has put pressure and profit into the situation and people are taking advantage of it.

https://www.qchron.com/editions/cent...cc9e106d8.html
Old article but the profits are even higher now

Now hotels are getting $700 a night for refugees and homeless. No money in it huh?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ts-housed.html

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