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Similar to the last proposal, this doesn't violate safety or building codes, doesn't waive the requirement to obtain building permits, and may actually allow municipalities to generate more tax revenue without constantly hitting up single family homeowners for more taxes. Transit corridors seem like an appropriate place to direct denser housing, since people don't generally want to build single family homes there anyway, and it encourages car-free living (read: less parking needed).
Or, we could continue to ignore our young people leaving for other states and hoping that enough of them want to become cops and teachers who have no choice but to live here.
Also, local zoning has become ridiculous and is used as an easier way to ban anything that doesn't resemble 1955 Levittown. If municipalities actually has master development plans (which would have included areas for this sort of denser development) or streamlined and reasonable zoning maps, this wouldn't be an issue.
Similar to the last proposal, this doesn't violate safety or building codes, doesn't waive the requirement to obtain building permits, and may actually allow municipalities to generate more tax revenue without constantly hitting up single family homeowners for more taxes. Transit corridors seem like an appropriate place to direct denser housing, since people don't generally want to build single family homes there anyway, and it encourages car-free living (read: less parking needed).
Or, we could continue to ignore our young people leaving for other states and hoping that enough of them want to become cops and teachers who have no choice but to live here.
Also, local zoning has become ridiculous and is used as an easier way to ban anything that doesn't resemble 1955 Levittown. If municipalities actually has master development plans (which would have included areas for this sort of denser development) or streamlined and reasonable zoning maps, this wouldn't be an issue.
In terms of the zoning/lack of a master plan aspects, do you think that the lack of incorporation for many communities at a more local level play a part in those factors? Meaning, if more of these communities were incorporated villages or cities versus being census designated places(CDP’s) within a bigger town, they would have a plan for that particular community to build more dense, walkable/transit access friendly housing.
Last edited by ckhthankgod; 01-12-2023 at 05:20 AM..
Let’s see if she can get it through the legislature first. Last time it blew up in her face when a good portion of her own party rebelled against it. Even if something does pass it’s likely to be a watered down version of her proposal.
I love it. I hope she hits every single white part of LI and destroys it with multi family homes full of young black/hispanic criminal types along with masses and masses of illegal central americans. Ya'll kept voting for demorats...ya'll gonna get demorat's ways. Ain't gonna be no more white only areas in NYC and LI once they done with ya'll.
As for me? I'll be down in Florida watching from my TV and computer. And if that don't work? I'll be watching from my house in Ireland. Toodalou!!!
Why are you bashing LI? Neither Suffolk nor Nassau voted for Hochul. And lol thinking that Ireland is an “escape” to some imagined white utopia. Tons of illegals and refugees have moved there in the last 10 years. It’s become a major issue there. In fact the Irish prime minister isn’t even white (he’s Indian descent).
In terms of the zoning/lack of a master plan aspects, do you think that the lack of incorporation for many communities at a more local level play a part in those factors? Meaning, if more of these communities were incorporated villages or cities versus being census designated places(CDP’s) within a bigger town, they would have a plan for that particular community to build more dense, walkable/transit access friendly housing.
Quite the opposite, I think incorporation of villages largely hinders development. There is generally a much bigger NIMBY sentiment among villages, and numerous local laws (architecture review, extra operating permits and licenses, etc) make it harder for businesses or developers to establish themselves. Add to that the relatively small size, with fewer "acceptable" or open areas to develop as compared to the larger townships. In terms of politics, it's harder too... face it, a Town official can upset one neighborhood and not risk his re-election; a village trustee probably doesn't have that luxury. Incorporated Villages do have more say in their direction, but it tends to be much more conservative when it comes to development.
Quite the opposite, I think incorporation of villages largely hinders development. There is generally a much bigger NIMBY sentiment among villages, and numerous local laws (architecture review, extra operating permits and licenses, etc) make it harder for businesses or developers to establish themselves. Add to that the relatively small size, with fewer "acceptable" or open areas to develop as compared to the larger townships. In terms of politics, it's harder too... face it, a Town official can upset one neighborhood and not risk his re-election; a village trustee probably doesn't have that luxury. Incorporated Villages do have more say in their direction, but it tends to be much more conservative when it comes to development.
Thanks for the response and perhaps towns should at how this development could be used to their advantage, by having a master plan for transit nodes within their borders to create walkable options like many towns in New England states have. It also would make towns more flexible, for lack of a better word, in terms of attracting more people due to having multiple styles of living. Plus, it could be done in a way where you don’t have the layer of village government.
Local goverments merely need to not offer one dime in tax abatements and drastically increase the tax rate on new multifamily dwellings and the problem will solve itself.
It is too expensive to build on Long Island. No builder is putting in complexes or buildings without generous tax breaks.
Quite the opposite, I think incorporation of villages largely hinders development. There is generally a much bigger NIMBY sentiment among villages, and numerous local laws (architecture review, extra operating permits and licenses, etc) make it harder for businesses or developers to establish themselves. Add to that the relatively small size, with fewer "acceptable" or open areas to develop as compared to the larger townships. In terms of politics, it's harder too... face it, a Town official can upset one neighborhood and not risk his re-election; a village trustee probably doesn't have that luxury. Incorporated Villages do have more say in their direction, but it tends to be much more conservative when it comes to development.
In some cases yes, but I don't think you see the new housing and redevelopment of Farmingdale village which has been an absolute boom the same wayif it was Town of Oyster Bay officials in charge instead of the Village.
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