Global warming finally came to the US! (how much, gas)

[jbgusa]

Originally Posted by Justabystander

All one has to look at is the rapidly accelerating temperatures globally, the melting glaciers in Greenland, the Alps, and Canada and rising oceans to know that it is real. Climate change does not exist for those who are like an ostrich and stick their head in the sand; it is always cool there and there is no change.

Discuss that one in Austin, Texas or Shreveport, Louisiana. Or as the song "Cotton Fields" goes, "it was down in Louisiana just about a mile from Texarkana." Texarkana to get more snow, not much ice.

[WINH]

The temperatures are not rapidly accelerating they are going up slowly because we are in a warm period now and the glaciers melting has done this 5 times in last 200 years and recovered 5 times so has happened before and the oceans have risen less than a half inch in last 40 years. Have seen a photograph of Statue of Liberty from 40 years ago and one from 2 years ago that have the nearly identical water lines. We are not even in the warmest time period ever so since this has all happened before with warming and cooling 5 times in last 200 years somebody needs to look at actual data not interpreted data so you can pull your head out of the sand with some historical research.

[GraniteStater]

Originally Posted by ram2

Not true. Global warming also means winter temperatures should be steadily rising, but this is not the case. The "experts" cherry pick data to support their claims. I still remember seeing the "Looming Ice Age" cover on Time magazine in 1977 warning us about the coming ice age.

Entirely incorrect based on actual sources with data:

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/2...analysis-shows

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ear-on-record/

[MSchemist80]

I love how every weather anomaly can be blamed on global warming.
Heat spell global warming
cold snap global warming
drought global warming
floods global warming
hurricanes global warming
tornados global warming
el nino...
la nina...

Also I love this idea that CO2 will cause Earth to become uninhabitable
Just scroll through the geological periods on wikipedia and look at the temperatures and CO2 ammounts
Permian, Triassic, Jruassic, Cretaceous, paleocene eocene. We are currently at ~435ppmV CO2 in most of those eras it was 1000+ and the earth was much warmer and life thrived. We are actually near the coldest the earth had been in the past 500 million years.

[jbgusa]

Originally Posted by GraniteStater

Entirely incorrect based on actual sources with data:

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/2...analysis-shows

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ear-on-record/

Your memory of the Times Magazine cover is correct. I remember it myself, along with a slew of similar magazine articles. I am suspicious of these "warmest years on record" panic headlines. They rely on a good deal of infilling of data from uninhabited areas such as oceans and the high latitudes. Worse than that many weather stations have been decommissioned after the end of the Cold War in the early 1990's. As far as t he Arctic being a high-warming area, how many people were really around over the years to faithfully monitor temperatures? There is a lot of room for guesswork.

Originally Posted by WINH

The temperatures are not rapidly accelerating they are going up slowly because we are in a warm period now and the glaciers melting has done this 5 times in last 200 years and recovered 5 times so has happened before and the oceans have risen less than a half inch in last 40 years. Have seen a photograph of Statue of Liberty from 40 years ago and one from 2 years ago that have the nearly identical water lines. We are not even in the warmest time period ever so since this has all happened before with warming and cooling 5 times in last 200 years somebody needs to look at actual data not interpreted data so you can pull your head out of the sand with some historical research.

Remember, events such as the St. Croix Hurricane of 1772 (link) (dispute as to whether it was August 31 or September 14), but one way or another paved way for Alexander Hamilton to wind up in New York, and the Year Without Summer of 1816, see 200 years ago, we endured a 'year without a summer', are examples of right wing propaganda or Trump tweets </sarcasm>. There is also the Hurricane of 1821 (unnamed) that joined the East and Hudson River in New York City up to either Canal or Chambers Street. Its path was eerily similar to 2011's Hurricane Irene, a "global warming" hurricane. There have always been extreme weather and climate events.

[ram2]

Originally Posted by GraniteStater

Entirely incorrect based on actual sources with data:

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/2...analysis-shows

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ear-on-record/

Hottest years "on record"? What year did the "record keeping" start? 10,000 BC? 1000 BC?

1000 AD? 1776? 1946?

[flamadiddle]

Global warming, climate change, whatever. The Earth will be just fine. And even if we humans are in part responsible, until you get China, India, etc. on board, trying to do something is a huge waste of time and money. We contribute pocket change to the atmosphere.

[Sunbiz1]

I love climatology threads,
What's important to understand is the term:
Positive feedback loops enhance or amplify changes; this tends to move a system away from its equilibrium state and make it more unstable.


With this in mind, expect an increasing amount of polar displacement; resulting in even more wild weather swings as years progress. Snow in October will no longer be an unusual event, as our changing climate drives weather into out of season patterns. Southern states will have to upgrade power grids to account for what we're seeing in Texas, or residents will suffer.

[highlanderfil]

Originally Posted by flamadiddle

Global warming, climate change, whatever. The Earth will be just fine. And even if we humans are in part responsible, until you get China, India, etc. on board, trying to do something is a huge waste of time and money. We contribute pocket change to the atmosphere.

So...we should just give up because someone else won't do their bit?

[reneeh63]

I guess as long as there's ice in Antarctica there's no global warming?