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Old 01-21-2021, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Kuna, ID
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I noticed on this page of OR road conditions that chains or traction tires are required to be carried on US95 in SE OR near Basque. I have all season tires on my FWD Dodge Caravan, but would not call them traction tires. Are there checks to ensure every car is carrying the required equipment? Road camera shows clear and dry roads, yet the requirement persists. What's the reality?
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Old 01-22-2021, 02:44 PM
 
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And you can't pump your own gas! But the Oregonians are very good at telling you what you can't do. Lots of signs along the freeways.
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Old 01-22-2021, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Spirit Lake. No more CA!!!!
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I noticed on this page of OR road conditions that chains or traction tires are required to be carried on US95 in SE OR near Basque. I have all season tires on my FWD Dodge Caravan, but would not call them traction tires. Are there checks to ensure every car is carrying the required equipment? Road camera shows clear and dry roads, yet the requirement persists. What's the reality?
I've done the drive between Winnemucca and Marsing quite a few times in winter. I've never seen any checkpoints along the way on the 95 to see if I was carrying chains. Most of the times I've done it in a Subaru with winter tires though. The only time I think I needed the winter tires was during a snow storm after Thanksgiving in 2019. The roads have been clear all the others times I have driven through there in winter. Best to just check the weather report and do the drive in good weather.
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Old 01-22-2021, 03:50 PM
 
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I've done the drive between Winnemucca and Marsing quite a few times in winter. I've never seen any checkpoints along the way on the 95 to see if I was carrying chains. Most of the times I've done it in a Subaru with winter tires though. The only time I think I needed the winter tires was during a snow storm after Thanksgiving in 2019. The roads have been clear all the others times I have driven through there in winter. Best to just check the weather report and do the drive in good weather.
Is the Subaru with symetrical AWD same as AWD in Toyota or Mazda? All the same?
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Old 01-22-2021, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Kuna, ID
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I've done the drive between Winnemucca and Marsing quite a few times in winter. I've never seen any checkpoints along the way on the 95 to see if I was carrying chains. Most of the times I've done it in a Subaru with winter tires though. The only time I think I needed the winter tires was during a snow storm after Thanksgiving in 2019. The roads have been clear all the others times I have driven through there in winter. Best to just check the weather report and do the drive in good weather.
Thanks a million for your excellent and helpful answer. I just bought chains anyway- cheap insurance!
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Old 01-23-2021, 10:22 AM
 
Location: North Idaho
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.......never seen any checkpoints along the way on the 95 to see if I was carrying chains.........

It would be rare to have an actual checkpoint. But if you get stuck in the snow and have to be towed out, I suspect that there is a large fine to be paid if you have ignored the traffic signs.


Generally, you won't see police stopping cars unless the weather is so bad that the road is actually closed.
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Old 01-23-2021, 12:15 PM
 
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Is the Subaru with symetrical AWD same as AWD in Toyota or Mazda? All the same?
No not the same. And Subie has different designs for different cars so it all depends. 'Symmetrical' AWD' is a marketing term, BTW, not a technical term. The standard Subie full time system is actually a pretty old-school design nowadays.....If you are interested, there is this; is has some marketing in it so read with care: https://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/...awd-work-.html



The actual implementation is different in different systems but their objective is to keep torque to all 4 wheels and avoid excessive slippage of any wheel on a slick spot; but all of them can and will probably do what most drivers need. Some cut off torque to the rear wheels in normal, non-slipping driving, for better fuel mileage. And some employ the ABS system components to help control wheel slippage to a wheel on a slick spot.


Where I have seen the more electronically controlled systems have more issues is in deep sand... but that is not likely your concern.
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Old 01-23-2021, 12:51 PM
 
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... I just bought chains anyway- cheap insurance!
Maybe too late for you but good info for others.
Les Schwab tire stores used to let you return tire chains in the spring if they were unused.
Cheaper insurance.
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Old 01-23-2021, 02:49 PM
 
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No not the same. And Subie has different designs for different cars so it all depends. 'Symmetrical' AWD' is a marketing term, BTW, not a technical term. The standard Subie full time system is actually a pretty old-school design nowadays.....If you are interested, there is this; is has some marketing in it so read with care: https://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/...awd-work-.html



The actual implementation is different in different systems but their objective is to keep torque to all 4 wheels and avoid excessive slippage of any wheel on a slick spot; but all of them can and will probably do what most drivers need. Some cut off torque to the rear wheels in normal, non-slipping driving, for better fuel mileage. And some employ the ABS system components to help control wheel slippage to a wheel on a slick spot.


Where I have seen the more electronically controlled systems have more issues is in deep sand... but that is not likely your concern.
I have heard that Subarus are very popular and used in Montana.
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Old 01-23-2021, 11:11 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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I have heard that Subarus are very popular and used in Montana.
Yup.
They're very popular in all the mountain west states, and have been for a very long time.

This popularity gives them some advantages; parts for them are easy to get, and more mechanics know them well. Their resale value is also quite high in the mountain west.

I own one, as does a friend of mine in Missoula. When I bought mine, I sent him a pic of it, and he sent me one of his Suby back.

We both bought Outbacks that are the same color.
When I went up for a visit later on, I got into his car once by mistake and tried to start it (I couldn't), and he got into mine by mistake and tried to start it. (his key didn't work either.)

Mine is 2 years newer, but the only easy way to tell them apart is the wheels. My wheels are fancier than his.
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