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On a related note, a friend once offered to bring me two dozen eggs from a farm - in a cooler, sitting on ice in cardboard cartons. There was a delay and by the time I got the cooler the eggs had been semi-submerged in cold water for who knows how long. I figured they were probably fine, but I did some research and found out it was a bad idea to use eggs that had been sitting in water. If the water or the cartons had bacteria it might be absorbed through the shell. Unfortunately I threw out all two dozen eggs.
Does Freezing Destroy Bacteria & Parasites? Freezing to 0 °F inactivates any microbes — bacteria, yeasts and molds — present in food.
Cook your food to a temperature ranging between 145 and 165 degrees F to kill bacteria, including Salmonella.
Freezing may slow the production, but not necessarily KILL what may be already there.
I learned this the hard way when I was homeless. One day I ate at the Mission. Usually good food. I ate a pre-packaged dessert (some apple thing). The expiration date on the package was the DAY I ate it. I figured it was still "safe".
Boy, was I WRO'NG. It LOOKED fine, SMELLED fine, TASTED fine. But it wasn't. I ended up with a SERIOUS case of....well...the "runs." Lasted for 10 days. Found out later on that mold etc. starts from WITHIN yeast products. In other words, it starts as WHITE mold from the CENTER of the bread-product. Not as blue/green mold.
After that, I went to a food pantry. Saw they had bread. All excited. Then I saw that the bread expired 2 days earlier. I was like, "Dude...do you KNOW this already expired?" He said, "Why do you care? It's FREE!"
Yeah, um....no......
So, in a nutshell, I try to be very careful about what I eat....Egg-specially....
Freezing may slow the production, but not necessarily KILL what may be already there.
I learned this the hard way when I was homeless. One day I ate at the Mission. Usually good food. I ate a pre-packaged dessert (some apple thing). The expiration date on the package was the DAY I ate it. I figured it was still "safe".
Boy, was I WRO'NG. It LOOKED fine, SMELLED fine, TASTED fine. But it wasn't. I ended up with a SERIOUS case of....well...the "runs." Lasted for 10 days. Found out later on that mold etc. starts from WITHIN yeast products. In other words, it starts as WHITE mold from the CENTER of the bread-product. Not as blue/green mold.
After that, I went to a food pantry. Saw they had bread. All excited. Then I saw that the bread expired 2 days earlier. I was like, "Dude...do you KNOW this already expired?" He said, "Why do you care? It's FREE!"
Yeah, um....no......
So, in a nutshell, I try to be very careful about what I eat....Egg-specially....
You've told this story before, and it proves nothing. First of all, unless you ate nothing else the entire day, there is no evidence that it was the pastry that made you sick.
Secondly, the "expiration date" does NOT mean "the day it becomes toxic"! I realize you will never believe this, but the date on packaged goods is really very arbitrary. Unless the package says "Use or freeze by XXX," which is often on meat, which should be obeyed, there is a whole lot of leeway built in.
Third, "the expiration date was the day I ate it" means that the food was still guaranteed by the manufacturer to be fresh and good quality on that date. Do you now throw out food wihch has a date of tomorrow because it might already be "bad"? At midnight, the coach turns into a pumpkin and the food becomes poisonous?
If the seal is broken on any kind of food, it might become moldy or spoiled well before the printed date. And if the package is undamaged, it may very well be perfectly fine for days, weeks, and even months.
But you know what they say... common sense is uncommon.
I usually do that too...
Does anyone inspect the eggs under magnifying glass?
I don't ....
Sometimes the eggs I buy at the supermarket have very faint hairline cracks visible without a magnifying glass. I won’t use those. Not saying I haven’t missed a crack at some point, but I wouldn’t take a chance.
And for the poster who says “you don’t know what it was that made you sick”: for myself? I would not take the chance.
I don’t worry too much about expy dates, especially if it’s only a day or two.
You really didn't have to waste them. I told you how to check them. Worst case scenario they are cracked, break them into a bowl and cook them right away.
You've told this story before, and it proves nothing. First of all, unless you ate nothing else the entire day, there is no evidence that it was the pastry that made you sick.
Secondly, the "expiration date" does NOT mean "the day it becomes toxic"! I realize you will never believe this, but the date on packaged goods is really very arbitrary. Unless the package says "Use or freeze by XXX," which is often on meat, which should be obeyed, there is a whole lot of leeway built in.
Third, "the expiration date was the day I ate it" means that the food was still guaranteed by the manufacturer to be fresh and good quality on that date. Do you now throw out food wihch has a date of tomorrow because it might already be "bad"? At midnight, the coach turns into a pumpkin and the food becomes poisonous?
If the seal is broken on any kind of food, it might become moldy or spoiled well before the printed date. And if the package is undamaged, it may very well be perfectly fine for days, weeks, and even months.
But you know what they say... common sense is uncommon.
Stuck to the cardboard carton. I buy eggs by the dozen from Trader Joe's, and I always open the lid, check for obvious big cracks or breaks (not worried about microscopic "lines") and wiggle each egg slightly to make sure it is not stuck to the carton. If it's stuck, that means there is a crack underneath that I can't see and some egg white has leaked and glued the shell down.
Stuck to the cardboard carton. I buy eggs by the dozen from Trader Joe's, and I always open the lid, check for obvious big cracks or breaks (not worried about microscopic "lines") and wiggle each egg slightly to make sure it is not stuck to the carton. If it's stuck, that means there is a crack underneath that I can't see and some egg white has leaked and glued the shell down.
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