[City Guy997S]

Originally Posted by kyle19125

That's a big pile of hooey.

There are hundreds of miles of unpopulated land in Florida, much of it within close proximity to existing population centers. The tendency in this state is to build out from existing cities versus spreading out and anyone with any sense who has driven around the state (or heck flown over it) could tell you that.

This^^^^^^

Drive through the middle of the state and you will see a very different Florida (hint no yachts, golf courses, beaches, etc)

https://www.realtor.com/realestatean...=srp-list-card

This shack is just 43 miles from Trump's own Maralago. Same "Palm Beach County" but vastly different area.

[City Guy997S]

Originally Posted by HarryWho?

I agree to a point Kyle, but a lot of the land you're referring to is not very desirable. I think water supply and poor infrastructure is another factor.

Correct but then again if you went back 75 years most of Florida was "not very desirable"

[City Guy997S]

Originally Posted by apple92680

For those saying "there's a lot of land in Florida" etc, etc, please keep in mind that much of the land is either swamp or has a limestone layer underneath, which are both natural to the Florida peninsula.

This does not bode well, though, and has been the cause of sink holes suddenly appearing and swallowing up houses, cars and people whole.

There isn't an infinite supply of land that can just be paved over.

Ok can you classify how many sinkholes have been troublesome in the last 50 years?

Google shows 6 deaths including the well publicized one in 2013.

30 gator deaths since 1948
5-6 Shark deaths annually on average
7 lightning deaths per year on average
72 bee/wasp sting deaths per year

I left out guns, cars/motorcyles/airplanes. Surfside was a notable 98 deaths BUT that probably was a construction defect/ lack of maintenance rather than a sinkhole type issue.

So clearly looking at the numbers: sinkholes aren't really a concern in the big picture!

[Daryl_G]

Originally Posted by logicalconsequence

FLA population density ranked by FLA county:

Florida Population Density County Rank

Once you get down past the top 7 counties, it's not too crowded at all.

It looks that way but anyone familiar with Palm Beach and Pasco County understands why their density is lower.

I will take the lesser-known one which is Pasco County. It has several large state parks and has issues with sinkholes in the western part, and the Eastern part is held up with locals fighting construction projects because there is a limitation of drinking water for the county. Pasco County is in a fight with Hernando and Pinellas County for drinking water rights. Pasco also has floodplains.

So from the 1000-foot mark, it looks like there is plenty of space to build in places like Pasco County but Florida is way more complicated than it seems with sinkhole issues, access to drinking water, floodplains, and State parks all over the place. These issues are mirrored all over the state.

The other issue is access to Jobs. Now that people not in their retirement years are moving to Florida in droves and need jobs that are located in the larger cities (many are not remote workers), they are just piling on top of each other in the 3-4 main cities and surrounding suburbs. Places like Tampa are just about maxed out with how much more sprawl can take place. Commutes to and from work in Tampa continue to grow which presents major problems with people who need to work including locals who are now caught out with the new found extra traffic.

I think Florida will look more and more like California. Politics will be different, but the issues of Water access, housing costs near cities, traffic issues, and the need to live near the big cities for work will look like California.

[Ghaati]

Originally Posted by City Guy997S

Ok can you classify how many sinkholes have been troublesome in the last 50 years?

Google shows 6 deaths including the well publicized one in 2013.

30 gator deaths since 1948
5-6 Shark deaths annually on average
7 lightning deaths per year on average
72 bee/wasp sting deaths per year

I left out guns, cars/motorcyles/airplanes. Surfside was a notable 98 deaths BUT that probably was a construction defect/ lack of maintenance rather than a sinkhole type issue.

So clearly looking at the numbers: sinkholes aren't really a concern in the big picture!

How much property damage was caused by sinkholes?
How much property damage was caused by gators? Sharks? Lightning? Bees/wasps?

Death is not the only thing in the category known as "troublesome."

[beach43ofus]

"Everyone talks about the hostile social and political climate, the rising costs of housing and insurance, the hurricanes, but nobody talks about Florida's main issue: Overpopulation. Florida is officially the most overpopulated state in the country and it's only going to get worse"

I sure hope the OP (Mrshadow914) tells this ^^^ to everyone back home where he lives, so they don't even think about moving here to Florida.

[CCS414]

Originally Posted by Dave_n_Tenn

How much do you predict the sea level rise in the "next few decades"? and how many is a few?

I thought this was pretty interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SazO3gtJQYc

[beach43ofus]

^^^CCS414, please share that image w/ everyone you know up North...& even people you don't know.

Post it all over C-D forums, and other social media to get the word out....beware of Florida sinking into the sea.

Every human needs to know Florida's sinking fast...any day now...we're being inundated down here.

We have just enough boats & life rafts to save those already here, but no more.

Do not venture South of Disney World near Orlando Florida, or else you could be swept away by rising seas, especially when its Hurricane season, & one passes overhead nearly every week.

When the Cane's hit, the roads are jammed, so there's no escape...best to stay far away...we're at extreme capacity...can't handle 1 more human.

[Dave_n_Tenn]

Originally Posted by beach43ofus

^^^CCS414, please share that image w/ everyone you know up North...& even people you don't know.

Post it all over C-D forums, and other social media to get the word out....beware of Florida sinking into the sea.

Every human needs to know Florida's sinking fast...any day now...we're being inundated down here.

We have just enough boats & life rafts to save those already here, but no more.

Do not venture South of Disney World near Orlando Florida, or else you could be swept away by rising seas, especially when its Hurricane season, & one passes overhead nearly every week.

When the Cane's hit, the roads are jammed, so there's no escape...best to stay far away...we're at extreme capacity...can't handle 1 more human.

I know... right.

Lol... I'm singing, "if they only had a brain"....

[Dave_n_Tenn]

Originally Posted by CCS414

I thought this was pretty interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SazO3gtJQYc

Of course they said a 6' rise in water would do that... right? and then say the ocean level is rising 2' per century. Do the math.

Seal levels are rising, but not at the rate "predicted".