[lunetunelover]

Could this have an impact:

https://www.tampabay.com/news/crime/...e-guilty-plea/

Florida nursing school operators plead guilty to selling fake diplomas to thousands of students

I recognize that this isn't doctors, but it still hurt a lot of potential graduates in the medical field.

[jaxrivers]

Originally Posted by Ghaati

Fewer OB-GYNs, fewer womens' reproductive health specialists, fewer doctors willing to refuse to provide abortions in emergency situations at hospitals where the woman's life is at risk, but not of immediate death.

Fewer pediatric doctors comfortable in providing resources to families of children with gender issues.

Fewer geriatric specialists willing to deal with the nightmare that is "lower-income seniors who don't live in an area where medicare advantage has a foothold."

Fewer doctors willing to serve everyone EXCEPT undocumented immigrants in fear of being arrested for harboring a fugitive.

Fewer doctors willing to risk lower quality of care because of low-paying positions for assistants, nurses, aides, even medical receptionists.

Fewer doctors willing to risk the potential fall-out of being "caught" caring for homosexuals, trans-gender adults, lesbians, anyone who identifies as something other than whatever reproductive system they were born with.

Fewer doctors willing to care for pubescent girls who might have been raped and are found to be pregnant because they don't want to be the ones to tell the parents that they have NO CHOICE in the results...

The list goes on. It's much more risky to be a doctor in Florida than it is in many other states. People who are already doctors here and established, might be hesitant to leave. But students just graduating, who haven't yet joined a practice, can establish anywhere. For many of them, Florida is not a very good choice.

Yet. Not an ounce of proof or documentation.

Tough to pick the best lie.

Asking people for immigration status means you get arrested for "harboring a fugitive"?


"Getting caught giving homosexuals medical care" gets you some vague type of "fall out".


A pregnant minor girl isn't automatically a victim of RAPE?? Let alone "pubescent"? And that's the LAW.

You're really wrong for that one, sorry.

Just for starters.

[beachmouse]

Originally Posted by Corrie22

of course there's more graduates leaving Florida....Florida graduates more people than 46 other states

medical schools in Florida are a huge money maker.....for Florida

Florida supplies the rest of the country with medical graduates.....just like oranges

As a Florida taxpayer, my taxes go toward subsidizing the education of doctors in the state.

So I want the new doctors to stay in the state after graduation and produce a useful return on the investment taxpayers have made in them and not just take off for Atlanta like so many other recent Florida college grads do.

[Corrie22]

cough.....they can not practice medicine as an independent when they graduate....they have to do residency....Florida graduates more doctors than there are residency slots

they can't just "stay in the state"

Originally Posted by Corrie22

they can't hire them if they don't have residency slots open......

Florida graduates more people than there are residency positions open for them...

Florida has passed bills uping funding to the hosps so they can open more slots

https://revcycleintelligence.com/fea...ician-shortage

https://www.fha.org/common/Uploaded%...20Final%20.pdf

[beachmouse]

Originally Posted by Corrie22

cough.....they can not practice medicine as an independent when they graduate....they have to do residency....Florida graduates more doctors than there are residency slots

they can't just "stay in the state"

Which is why we need more residency slots in the state and a more attractive environment to draw the under-40s doctors back to the state if they do residency elsewhere.

So many of the kids in the state, including a lot of our best and brightest, take that first adult job out of state, discover there’s more to quality of life than palm tress, and never come back.

[Ghaati]

Originally Posted by beachmouse

Which is why we need more residency slots in the state and a more attractive environment to draw the under-40s doctors back to the state if they do residency elsewhere.

So many of the kids in the state, including a lot of our best and brightest, take that first adult job out of state, discover there’s more to quality of life than palm trees, and never come back.

Palm trees and golf, but otherwise agree. Most states don't have gated communities where - the moment you leave the relative safety of the gates to go to the supermarket, or the city library, or a restaurant - you're either shown the landscaping wall of shrubbery or concrete that keeps everyone out of OTHER gated communities, or you're smacked with horrible looking run-down trailers and trailer parks, half-vacant strip malls with filth strewn by the front doors of abandoned shops, pawn shops, gun stores, liquor stores, and not much else.

[Corrie22]

Originally Posted by beachmouse

Which is why we need more residency slots in the state and a more attractive environment to draw the under-40s doctors back to the state if they do residency elsewhere.

So many of the kids in the state, including a lot of our best and brightest, take that first adult job out of state, discover there’s more to quality of life than palm tress, and never come back.

oh please Elizabeth..the drama...."a lot of our best and brightest".....that's the demons in your head

....you have no idea if the "best and brightest" stay or go

you want to champion this?.....get off your rear and go to the hospitals and tell them they need more residency slots

(hint: if they needed more doctors they would have them)

[gypsychic]

Originally Posted by Ghaati

Palm trees and golf, but otherwise agree. Most states don't have gated communities where - the moment you leave the relative safety of the gates to go to the supermarket, or the city library, or a restaurant - you're either shown the landscaping wall of shrubbery or concrete that keeps everyone out of OTHER gated communities, or you're smacked with horrible looking run-down trailers and trailer parks, half-vacant strip malls with filth strewn by the front doors of abandoned shops, pawn shops, gun stores, liquor stores, and not much else.

I really feel sorry for you if it actually looks like that where you live. It doesn't look like that where I live. And by the way, there are a LOT of states that fit your exact description, it's not unique to Florida.

[beachmouse]

Originally Posted by Corrie22

oh please Elizabeth..the drama...."a lot of our best and brightest".....that's the demons in your head

....you have no idea if the "best and brightest" stay or go

you want to champion this?.....get off your rear and go to the hospitals and tell them they need more residency slots

(hint: if they needed more doctors they would have them)

That Florida has long lost college graduates in general to other states is an established fact.

Rick Scott actually had some good initiatives that showed success in reversing this.

DeSantis’ attack on higher ed in the state has a strong possibility of reversing those important gains the Scott administration made in that regard.

[kyle19125]

Originally Posted by beachmouse

Which is why we need more residency slots in the state and a more attractive environment to draw the under-40s doctors back to the state if they do residency elsewhere.

So many of the kids in the state, including a lot of our best and brightest, take that first adult job out of state, discover there’s more to quality of life than palm tress, and never come back.

Residency doesn't amount to a hill of beans once residency is complete, given they still high-tail off to another state. Not to mention the unprofitably seen in such a measure in a state where the majority of hospitals fall into for-profit status. Besides UM-Miller and UF-Shands the remainder of medical school hospitals are run by a hospital corporation.