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Old 07-18-2023, 08:33 AM
 
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https://www2.census.gov/programs-sur...020-tableD.pdf

Certain stats les lost Congressional seats and others gained. Correlates to states who lost population and ones who gained....
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Old 07-18-2023, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Since you seem to be interested in trends, here is a longer-term trend: 2 of the 3 states that lost population from 2010-2020 were red states: WV and MS. You're busy bragging about the red states in the South that are gaining lots of people, and the blue states in the NE that are lagging behind, but you seem to be forgetting there are red states in the Midwest, Plains and even some in the South that are lagging behind, and there are blue states in the West (such as WA, OR, and CO) that are gaining.
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So what? Using last year data available to underscore a trend is SOP.



Here's a more detail look at one year. To anyone with a sliver of honesty and integrity it destroys your absurd claim above about no pattern.


https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/top-1...ical-measures/


The South passing the NE:


https://www.newsweek.com/republican-...rhouse-1810767



Longer term info to squelch your other deflection.......2010-2020 in percentage terms so you'll have to think hard. While keeping in mind all of this has accelerated since this data was compiled.

https://www.census.gov/dataviz/visualizations/043/


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For most blue states, especially those with large populations/large cities population trends, GDP contribution, AGI shifts etc. paint a bleak picture.
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Old 07-18-2023, 08:40 AM
 
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Florida is expensive, hard to find insurance companies to insure your house and car.
TEXAS is also getting expensive as well.and the hot weather?
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Old 07-18-2023, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Longer term info to squelch your other deflection.......2010-2020 in percentage terms so you'll have to think hard. While keeping in mind all of this has accelerated since this data was compiled.

https://www.census.gov/dataviz/visualizations/043/
Look at your own chart again: There are vast swaths of red states in the Plains and elsewhere that have been stagnating since ... forever. Ohio, West Virginia, Nebraska, Iowa, South Dakota, Mississippi, etc. - red states all - are going nowhere.

The phenomenon you're bragging about isn't a red-blue state phenomenon. It's a north/midwest-to-south/west phenomenon. Even the red states in the midwest are falling behind.
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Old 07-18-2023, 08:51 AM
 
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Florida is not in the top 10 of inbound states? Neither is Texas? This seems very strange to me. Enough so that I don't trust that this list has any relevance.
The other guy's chart is in given in percentage growth terms. Smaller shifts to really small states yield big percent change numbers.
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Old 07-18-2023, 08:56 AM
 
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Look at your own chart again: There are vast swaths of red states in the Plains and elsewhere that have been stagnating since ... forever. Ohio, West Virginia, Nebraska, Iowa, South Dakota, Mississippi, etc. - red states all - are going nowhere.

The phenomenon you're bragging about isn't a red-blue state phenomenon. It's a north/midwest-to-south/west phenomenon. Even the red states in the midwest are falling behind.
You know my point, even if you cannot tolerate admitting as much. The big dynamic economy red states are clobbering the big blue states across numerous important metrics.

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Oh, I just noticed we are in the eon. section. Maybe a mod. could move this?
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Old 07-18-2023, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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You know my point, even if you cannot tolerate admitting as much. The big dynamic economy red states are clobbering the big blue states across numerous important metrics.
The fact you cannot address my point and resort to ad hominen attacks illustrates how weak your case is.

Not only are there red states that are stagnating and blue states that are booming, within the red states that are booming, people are largely moving to the blue cities or purple suburbs.
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Old 07-18-2023, 09:29 AM
 
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Here is a map showing population gain or loss by county 2010-2020.

Notice that in Texas, Georgia, Tennessee, North Carolina and most of the other booming Southern states, it is the cities and suburbs which are booming. Those are where democrats are concentrated.

Meanwhile, huge swaths of republican areas are losing population.

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Old 07-18-2023, 10:58 AM
 
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Florida is not in the top 10 of inbound states? Neither is Texas? This seems very strange to me. Enough so that I don't trust that this list has any relevance.
It's data from a single van line that doesn't factor in all moves or even most. Legacy moving van lines only account for 50% of the nation's moves. Regional lines as well as containerization (PODS PackRat, ABF, UPack) plus the DIY moving rounds out the rest of the field. Although there are additional statics that can be used as a verification tool, they are also under suspicion. The last census count is bogged down in challenges of undercounting.

And you have many states that have much fewer actual resident then what is on paper. Take Montana, N. Dakota, Texas and Florida. All of them have very favorable laws that enable full-time RVers to use their state for taxes and vehicle registration even though they never set a foot in that state. Does anyone really believe all those people in Class A RVs with Montana plates actually live in the state?

By way of another example, A fiend lives in AZ but is considered a remote worker so they establish residency where they want to establish residency. Guess what, he legally lives and is considered a new resident of some cubby hole box in "suite" shop in Texas. No taxes, no smog inspections, no anything AZ, just TX. He went to Texas once to sign the box rental with mail/package forwarding paperwork. He and several others who are in AZ, live in Texas.
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Old 07-18-2023, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Here is a map showing population gain or loss by county 2010-2020.

Notice that in Texas, Georgia, Tennessee, North Carolina and most of the other booming Southern states, it is the cities and suburbs which are booming. Those are where democrats are concentrated.

Meanwhile, huge swaths of republican areas are losing population.
Here is a link to the map I was referring to:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8nVdqwX...pg&name=medium
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