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Old 11-13-2023, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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Since dogs generally won't poop where they sleep, he may have the urge to poop but he won't- he's in his den in your room. BUT given the opportunity to leave his sleep spot he may have the urge and will poop in the middle of the night elsewhere.
We haven't had quite as many dogs as you have, but we have had 8 in 30+ years that we've been in a home and not an apartment, and have never encountered this problem before. My question is: If our 5-year-old Mini Australian Shepherd was able to go through the night without having to go out and poop when she was his age, that kind of tells me that it's more of a learned thing to wait until morning instead of a gotta-go-right now kind of thing (particularly since he holds it if he's locked in the room or would do if locked in a crate. I'm assuming it's not going to be detrimental to his health. Am I right? Incidentally, it's never been diarrhea. If I could just train him to wait until morning, that's what I'd like to do.
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Old 11-13-2023, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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Second this!
At least the two cats can jump over a baby gate ,
your other dog probably not so much but maybe.
That's a good idea. We actually have a gate we could use. I don't think the other dog would jump over it. She's just used to holding it till morning.
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Old 11-13-2023, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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We haven't had quite as many dogs as you have, but we have had 8 in 30+ years that we've been in a home and not an apartment, and have never encountered this problem before. My question is: If our 5-year-old Mini Australian Shepherd was able to go through the night without having to go out and poop when she was his age, that kind of tells me that it's more of a learned thing to wait until morning instead of a gotta-go-right now kind of thing (particularly since he holds it if he's locked in the room or would do if locked in a crate. I'm assuming it's not going to be detrimental to his health. Am I right? Incidentally, it's never been diarrhea. If I could just train him to wait until morning, that's what I'd like to do.
Don’t know. Every dog is different. Kinda why we go back to step 1 with young dogs until they get our routine.
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Old 11-14-2023, 08:48 AM
 
Location: PNW
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I'm happy with this night light that turns on by itself based on when it gets dark.

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Old 11-14-2023, 09:54 AM
 
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That's a good idea. We actually have a gate we could use. I don't think the other dog would jump over it. She's just used to holding it till morning.
I am glad you seem to found a solution that works for you. Just curious as to why you are so anti-crate?
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Old 11-14-2023, 10:59 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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When you use a crate for the pup ... You are giving the Aussie & the Cats their Freedom Back! There are lots of dogs that Dont like Freedom, Makes the nervous, scared.

Mixes, Crossbreds Dont have papers. They just have High price tags. At best you still get a Healthy Well temperament dog. At Worse you get a Sickly Basket case.

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Old 11-14-2023, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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I am glad you seem to found a solution that works for you. Just curious as to why you are so anti-crate?
I'm not really anti-crate. The dog just was.
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Old 11-14-2023, 02:14 PM
 
Location: on the wind
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Mixes, Crossbreds Dont have papers. They just have High price tags. At best you still get a Healthy Well temperament dog. At Worse you get a Sickly Basket case.
What does any of this have to do with pooping where it isn't wanted? Whether they're some designer breed or not, have papers or not, all puppies (and their humans) need to go through housetraining!
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Old 11-14-2023, 04:03 PM
 
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I'm not really anti-crate. The dog just was.
Ah - you need to make his crate his happy place. Give him a toy/ bone/ treat in there and do not close the door. Get him to want and go in and out freely. Perhaps make it cozier with a crate cover. Of course they won't like a crate if they only associate it with you leaving or stopping playing because it is bedtime.
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Old 11-14-2023, 08:46 PM
 
Location: West coast
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Our dogs absolutely love their crates.
They didn’t at first but now it is their safe spot and they often just nap in it.

One odd thing that I’ve seen was that dogs would train their owners if the owners allowed them to.
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