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Old 01-22-2024, 05:18 AM
 
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I haven't read through this entire thread, but this kind of sickens me.

Many discussions on human reproduction, breeding rights, and 'eugenics', as we call it. Only applies to humans?

So many beautiful animals sitting in shelters that will make great pets. Their noses, hearts, knees, and eyes are "ok". They are already here.

Think about this.

Think about this... plenty of us with purebred animals also have or have had pound puppies or rescues.
My three Cavaliers are now 4, 3, and 1 year old.
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Old 01-23-2024, 12:43 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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So many beautiful animals sitting in shelters that will make great pets. Their noses, hearts, knees, and eyes are "ok". They are already here..............
Pound puppies can make good pets, but if people are going to add a dog to their family and love it for 14-16 years, they should be able to pick the dog they want and not have to have the dog that Heavymind picks for them or insists is the only one they can have.

Not all people want a pitbull mix or a medium size black mongrel with a white spot on his chest.

Different breeds have been developed for different purposes. If a family knows what they want a dog to do for the family, then they can go and get a dog of a breed that is well known for doing that particular behavior.

You do know that you are supporting the careless pet owner, the one who will not spay or neuter, the one who lets their female get bred by whatever male is running loose and then won't take care of the puppies.

You are coming around on the internet and loudly proclaiming, "go ahead because I will come along behind you and clean up your mess and make sure all your oops puppies are OK so you don't have to worry or take responsibility for them"
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Old 01-23-2024, 05:48 PM
 
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Additionally...reputable breeders aren't the root cause of dogs ending up in shelters. The real culprit in a big picture way, probably even more so than irresponsible pet owners who allow their pets to breed indiscriminately, is puppy mills. People who buy from reputable breeders aren't the ones making impulse purchases, and most breeders require you to agree to return the animal if things somehow don't work out. Not so with puppy mills.

I regularly checked with area shelters for about a year when I decided it was time for another dog, but the available dogs that would have been suitable for my home were extremely few and far between and always had multiple applicants.
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Old 01-23-2024, 07:34 PM
 
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Not all people want a pitbull mix or a medium size black mongrel with a white spot on his chest.

Different breeds have been developed for different purposes. If a family knows what they want a dog to do for the family, then they can go and get a dog of a breed that is well known for doing that particular behavior.
So, eugenics? Society is fine with selective breeding for animals, lest they end up with something that isn't the perfect size/color/whatever, but when it comes to humans it's forbidden and demonized. You get what you get and that's it.

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Pound puppies can make good pets, but if people are going to add a dog to their family and love it for 14-16 years, they should be able to pick the dog they want and not have to have the dog that Heavymind picks for them or insists is the only one they can have.
They should? You just made an excellent case for human eugenics, and with this shallow level of thinking I don't think it would be difficult at all to sway the population into accepting such a program, should it come into practice again by a forthcoming regime.

Shakin' my head...
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Old 01-23-2024, 08:46 PM
 
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Pound puppies can make good pets, but if people are going to add a dog to their family and love it for 14-16 years, they should be able to pick the dog they want and not have to have the dog that Heavymind picks for them or insists is the only one they can have.

Not all people want a pitbull mix or a medium size black mongrel with a white spot on his chest.

Different breeds have been developed for different purposes. If a family knows what they want a dog to do for the family, then they can go and get a dog of a breed that is well known for doing that particular behavior.
I agree. Get the dog you want, that suits your lifestyle. Far too many people get conned in to taking a pound dog that they are not equipped to handle and then guilted in to keeping that dog.
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Old 01-23-2024, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Sandy Eggo's North County
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Jesus, all I wanted to do, was update my dog's progress, on stuff. (Yeah, I was boasting.)
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Old 01-24-2024, 05:54 AM
 
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Jesus, all I wanted to do, was update my dog's progress, on stuff. (Yeah, I was boasting.)

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Old 01-26-2024, 09:32 PM
 
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Jesus, all I wanted to do, was update my dog's progress, on stuff. (Yeah, I was boasting.)

Thanks for the update! Beautiful pup.
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