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Old 05-08-2015, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Lake Country
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Corgis have lots of back problems. While I got lucky with Katie, its a bred I never wanted to breed. My ex LL has 4 doxies All in their Teen years Non have back problems. I never met a doxie or any long back dog with problems Cause Breeders Check for that Before they breed!
IME Doxies have more back problems than Corgis. Ask any vet and you'll get the same answer unless maybe they see way more Corgis than Doxies in their practice.

I am guessing you did not mean to imply that all Doxie breeders check for back problems.

Certainly genetics plays a role. But the simple physics behind a long backed, short legged dog dictates that the spine will experience much more stress than a more structurally balanced dog's spine will. Add the cruel factor of packing extra pounds on the dog...one of my biggest pet peeves...and allowing the dog to jump on and off furniture and you have the recipe for common spinal injuries.
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Old 05-08-2015, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Lake Country
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People in my area Dump the EC they No clue that there is w Whole world of difference other than looks between the 2

What area do you live in Jumpindogs?
Great Lakes area...WI, IL, MI
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Old 05-08-2015, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Santa Barbara CA
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OP did not understand what AKC means!

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I did think this is a common thing as most people seem to believe that AKC means they are getting a healthy dog if only that was true.

I know a doctor who years ago bought a Golden Retriever puppy. By the time the dog was 4 she had such bad hip dysplasia that the vet said they should consider putting her down. They drove out of town to see a specialist that said the same thing and as he was telling me and a group of nurses the story years later he still got teared up and he ended by saying we do not get it as she was AKC. I then explained what AKC means and that it does not mean you will get a healthy dog.

That experience was so difficult that they went years without a dog but recently adopted two rescues one is a Maltipoo and the other a Shih tzu and both are living the good life now being very spoiled and every time I run into the doctor he pulls out his smart phone to show me new photos of the two.

So yeah even very well educated people get mislead by a dog being AKC
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Old 05-08-2015, 10:04 PM
 
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I did think this is a common thing as most people seem to believe that AKC means they are getting a healthy dog if only that was true.

I know a doctor who years ago bought a Golden Retriever puppy. By the time the dog was 4 she had such bad hip dysplasia that the vet said they should consider putting her down. They drove out of town to see a specialist that said the same thing and as he was telling me and a group of nurses the story years later he still got teared up and he ended by saying we do not get it as she was AKC. I then explained what AKC means and that it does not mean you will get a healthy dog.

That experience was so difficult that they went years without a dog but recently adopted two rescues one is a Maltipoo and the other a Shih tzu and both are living the good life now being very spoiled and every time I run into the doctor he pulls out his smart phone to show me new photos of the two.

So yeah even very well educated people get mislead by a dog being AKC
I'm not the only one then! It's very traumatizing to watch an active dog in their prime deteriorate within a matter of days. There's nothing you can do. Our girl had IMHA and deteriorated within a day of her diagnosis. Our vet recommended euthanasia because of her poor prognosis. I asked her how much time we had, and she said a couple weeks or a couple days. We were absolutely stunned, it happened fast.

I am learning more about things and will do it right this next time. Probably best to get a certificate of health for whatever problems are specific to that breed.
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Old 05-09-2015, 12:34 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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A good Breeder would have offered you another dog or money back! Things do happen beyond the breeders control. What breed was the dog?
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Old 05-09-2015, 04:01 AM
 
Location: Floyd Co, VA
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I'm not the only one then!

I am learning more about things and will do it right this next time. Probably best to get a certificate of health for whatever problems are specific to that breed.
You certainly are not the only one.

Current estimates are about 2.5 million puppies are produced in mills each year and most of those get sold. There are about 400,000 dogs (the vast majority females) kept as breeding stock who live their whole lives in horrid conditions, bred over and over again as often as possible.

If you are determined to purchase a purebred pup please do your homework and thoroughly research any breeders that you are considering buying from.
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Old 05-09-2015, 05:23 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Another thing to be aware of DNA That proves who the Mom & Dad Really are! AKC Rules say Breeders only have to be DNA on the 7th litter. So its not much help unless you find a breeder that does DNA Before they start breeding their dogs. Which I betting is Rare. When I got my Pap Lady-Bug her parents were not DNA tested. I had a idea the True parents Were Not correct on her papers & I was Right! But not in the way I thought. Anyway I not sure how you can tell the papers you looking at on the parents are really theirs or some other dogs. Maybe another person on here can tell you [& Me] that. Cause it sure makes me wonder how I going to pick my next dog. By the time it was straighten out thru AKC it was too late for me to bred Lady.
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Old 05-09-2015, 07:28 PM
 
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Had to put our dog down a week ago. It was very sudden and due to a genetic deficiency. She started to really struggle and the vet said she would only get worse (which she did immediately) so we put her down.
Ahhhhhh im so sorry!!!!

I can tell you really loved her and didnt want her to suffer... Know in your heart how much she meant. She knows how lucky she was to have a family as yours


Peace and love to you my friend
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Old 05-09-2015, 08:20 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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I So Sorry but there Not any test for what your dog died of. They are blaming it on everything from Shots to Heartworm meds So this is something beyond even the breeders.
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Old 05-09-2015, 08:35 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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IME Doxies have more back problems than Corgis. Ask any vet and you'll get the same answer unless maybe they see way more Corgis than Doxies in their practice.

I am guessing you did not mean to imply that all Doxie breeders check for back problems.

Certainly genetics plays a role. But the simple physics behind a long backed, short legged dog dictates that the spine will experience much more stress than a more structurally balanced dog's spine will. Add the cruel factor of packing extra pounds on the dog...one of my biggest pet peeves...and allowing the dog to jump on and off furniture and you have the recipe for common spinal injuries.
In my area WV You don't see nor find Corgis much Doxies Rule! I yet to see any with back problems. Maybe the breeders did their homework but I don't really believe that. My LL dogs were her buying 2 pups from the same litter & until they had pups she didn't have a clue! She got the Dad Fixed but not the one male she kept ...then she was Shocked that the son got his mom preggers! She kept another boy got the 1st son fixed .... then got smart & Fixed mom & the male pup! By the time she became my Mgr they were older & all she did was complain to stupid to house train poos on carpet all the time even after walks cant figure out how to play fetch Well it went on & on She is Not the only one with Doxies I been around like this! I Don't think I met a True Breeder! I want to say they are WV inbred people breeding WV inbred dogs But they Were Not WV They are people the moved here from other states When land here was cheep & Taxes Low!
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