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Old 09-09-2018, 08:37 PM
 
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There is no evidence that people who drink fluoridated water are more likely to have hypothyroidism.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28839078
No credible evidence and fluoride has been used in water for years
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Old 09-13-2018, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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I just read thru this thread from the beginning and lots of views and so few replies considering. Some of those who really Favor this fluoridation mass medication are also very much involved in the pharma industry. How about that connection? Interesting observation to say the least.


A member of another health group I'm a member just sent this thru on New Zealand:

https://www.naturalhealth365.com/flu...tion-2673.html
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Old 09-13-2018, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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I just read thru this thread from the beginning and lots of views and so few replies considering. Some of those who really Favor this fluoridation mass medication are also very much involved in the pharma industry. How about that connection? Interesting observation to say the least.


A member of another health group I'm a member just sent this thru on New Zealand:

https://www.naturalhealth365.com/flu...tion-2673.html
Another great site filled with ads! It's anti-vaccine, too!

It's also filled with misinformation.

It ends with, "Or, if possible, try to locate a clean source of natural spring water. The reward of better health will be worth the effort."

That's funny, since ground water in New Zealand naturally contains fluoride.

http://www.rph.org.nz/content/e419fd...fd96a6c027.cmr
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Old 09-13-2018, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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And so does the U.S. water contain naturally occurring "F" but the bags/drums of "c**p" is added as in NZ. SQ, I know you don't want to see this or say it's all the same, it's not. It's natural stuff with the bagged stuff added. Did you happen to read any of the comments at the end of the article? And yes many of we here in the U.S. seek out cleaner water that is not heavily polluted with the waste from the plants.
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Old 09-13-2018, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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And so does the U.S. water contain naturally occurring "F" but the bags/drums of "c**p" is added as in NZ. SQ, I know you don't want to see this or say it's all the same, it's not. It's natural stuff with the bagged stuff added. Did you happen to read any of the comments at the end of the article? And yes many of we here in the U.S. seek out cleaner water that is not heavily polluted with the waste from the plants.
I know you refuse to understand the chemistry involved, but the "bags/drums of "c**p" " turn into fluoride (the same chemical found naturally in water" and plain old silica - sand - when added to water. The anti-fluoride crew are taking advantage of your inability to understand that.
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Old 09-13-2018, 06:08 PM
 
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I know you refuse to understand the chemistry involved, but the "bags/drums of "c**p" " turn into fluoride (the same chemical found naturally in water" and plain old silica - sand - when added to water. The anti-fluoride crew are taking advantage of your inability to understand that.
Why do you think there is a controversy? Just because of stupidity?

This article https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/154164.php says there can be health risks from flouride.

This research found thyroid problems related to flouride in drinking water https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5805681/


When there is a controversy, there is more than one side. You should not automatically assume one side is correct, and the other is just stupid.

Moderator cut: maligning a poster with whom you disagree--remark removed.

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Old 09-13-2018, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Why do you think there is a controversy? Just because of stupidity?

This article https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/154164.php says there can be health risks from flouride.

This research found thyroid problems related to flouride in drinking water https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5805681/


When there is a controversy, there is more than one side. You should not automatically assume one side is correct, and the other is just stupid.
Your first article was written by someone who is a journalist, not a scientist, and apparently does not know the difference between the thyroid gland and the parathyroids, making the entire article suspect. It also provides not a single source to support anything in it.

Your second article suffers from a common problem: trying to draw conclusions from small numbers. I have read it several times, and the methodology is also problematic, since they apparently selected cases and controls, then removed people from the control set who had thyroid disease. That makes absolutely no sense at all.

Chemistry is chemistry, and the chemistry of fluoride is well understood. There is no evidence that fluoride in the concentration used to treat drinking water is dangerous.
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Old 09-14-2018, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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It never ends, finding blogs, articles etc on this Toxic Poison, here is one even those on the fence might get off the fence if they read it.

https://www.chrisbeatcancer.com/fluoride-is-poison/

The blogger even touches on the physicians and cigs -- remember those days? Oh how many lost their lives with those recommendations.....another topic but along the same lines I believe.

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Old 09-14-2018, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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It never ends, finding blogs, articles etc on this Toxic Poison, here is one even those on the fence might get off the fence if they read it.

https://www.chrisbeatcancer.com/fluoride-is-poison/

The blogger even touches on the physicians and cigs -- remember those days? Oh how many lost their lives with those recommendations.....another topic but along the same lines I believe.
Yes, Chris beat cancer, because he had surgery for it, not because of anything he ate.

His website is there to sell stuff. He repeats the "industrial waste" meme, demonstrating tha he also knows nothing about th chemistry of fluoridation. The cigarette nonsense is just an attempt at deflection.

You can post daily links to people claiming the same thing and making the same bogus arguments. They will be bogus today and every day into the infinite future.
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Old 09-14-2018, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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How much damage this fluoride BUILD UP has caused in our bodies we'll never know. But my bets are on plenty.
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