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Old 02-08-2023, 11:47 AM
 
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First, the mother should go through all the legal channels and make the boy's family get involved in the correction of the boy's behavior. If that doesn't work, which sometimes doesn't (others ignore the issue), then she should hire a guy to roughen him up, or pay a boy to hang out with him at school (a boy who already goes there), so he can have a buddy. Sometimes these kids being bullied have no support system.

Sometimes people just need a little encouragement to do the right thing.
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Old 02-08-2023, 11:51 AM
 
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Running over a bully is a bit too extreme. Bullying should not bring a death sentence. A child molester, that might be different, that brings out the mother tiger in me, but I would be smart enough to no kill him right out in public.

The only real way to deal with it is to train the child how to deal with it. If the kid stops being a victim, then the bullying stops.

Vigilantism does work in some circumstances. My son is a very big and good natured guy and he was a very big, good natured, and confident child. After my son was an adult, I asked him about bullying when he was in school and he told me it never happened. That if anyone tried bullying that he and a couple of other big kids would take them out behind the gymnasium and explain to them why bullying was not acceptable and wasn't going to be allowed and the bullying would stop.

Although qualifying that, he went to a school where the children were well raised and their parents cared about what they were doing. He wasn't at a school full of drug addicts and gang members. And having student vigilantes is a lot different than having a parent rushing in to the defense.
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Old 02-08-2023, 01:17 PM
 
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Bullies often operate through fear. What if anything lesson did this 15 year old bully learn? That he has even more things to be afraid of than he did before he was clobbered by an unbalanced, vengeful loon wielding a two ton weapon. He didn't learn much if anything about why he shouldn't be a bully. Violence begets violence.
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Old 02-08-2023, 01:23 PM
 
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What if anything did this 15 year old learn? That he has even more things to be afraid of than he did before he was clobbered by a deranged loon wielding a two ton weapon. He didn't learn much if anything about bullying. Bullies often operate through fear. Violence begets violence.
Bullies operate on fear? More like power. They may pick their victims based on whom they know they can dominate, but I doubt they're scared while doing the bullying lol.

Depending on the extent of the bullying, the mom went overboard, to I'd just say her foot slipped off the break and hit the gas pedal, honest mistake
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Old 02-08-2023, 01:32 PM
 
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Bullies operate on fear? More like power. They may pick their victims based on whom they know they can dominate, but I doubt they're scared while doing the bullying lol.
Bullies tend to be insecure about life and themselves. Fear is a product of insecurity. They try to counteract that fear by creating it in others. Exerting power over them. A secure person isn't fearful because they have reached a level of peace with themselves. They don't feel the need to dominate or intimidate others.

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Old 02-08-2023, 01:41 PM
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Her attorney tells an ENTIRELY different story, which would explain why the judge didn't charge mom bail to be released from jail.

https://patch.com/new-york/shirley-m...im-indicted-da
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Old 02-08-2023, 01:41 PM
 
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So he can be the one to run the kid over? I'm not sure what you mean by this.
I was wondering the same thing. Or maybe an adult male would be able to more credibly threaten the teen without actually harming him?
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Old 02-08-2023, 01:41 PM
 
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Honestly, I would take the kid out of the environment, move if necessary, at least change schools if moving isn't an option, home school if necessary. Sometimes the environment is too toxic to fix and if it’s life or death or involves violence, warranted. I remember how sick kids are.
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Old 02-08-2023, 01:46 PM
 
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Her attorney tells an ENTIRELY different story, which would explain why the judge didn't charge mom bail to be released from jail.

https://patch.com/new-york/shirley-m...im-indicted-da
Wow, thanks for finding and posting this. It just goes to show, that you can't trust the media; they'll skew the facts to wring as much sensationalism out of a story as possible. It's not about reporting news; it's about selling papers or advertising by any means necessary. There's no integrity.
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Old 02-08-2023, 01:47 PM
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Wow, thanks for finding and posting this. It just goes to show, that you can't trust the media; they'll skew the facts to wring as much sensationalism out of a story as possible. It's not about reporting news; it's about selling papers by any means necessary. There's no integrity.
I wonder if the truth isn't somewhere in the middle. If what the attorney is saying is true, the DA in this case is as bad as Nifong - predatory prosecution.
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