Which region is more culturally aligned with Los Angeles? (population, people, cons)
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SOUTH Orange County (Irvine, Newport Beach, San Clemente, touches the coast like Los Angeles, San Diego influences? Despite LA being a behemoth it is close to SD) vs Inland Empire (Riverside, San Bernardino, LA's eastern exurbs)
SOUTH Orange County (Irvine, Newport Beach, San Clemente, touches the coast like Los Angeles, San Diego influences? Despite LA being a behemoth it is close to SD) vs Inland Empire (Riverside, San Bernardino, LA's eastern exurbs)
San Clemente, and to a lesser extent Newport exist in a gray area where it is not immediately obvious whether they are in the orbit of San Diego or Los Angeles (though both are counted in L.A. metro area). Irvine is more decisively in L.A.'s solar system, but culturally aligned? Hard to say.
Inland Empire residents will more quickly identify as "L.A.", but that doesn't count for anything.
Ultimately I did vote for the Inland Empire based on their early rise to prominence with the L.A. basin for agriculture. I wouldn't say a vote for OC is wrong though.
San Clemente, and to a lesser extent Newport exist in a gray area where it is not immediately obvious whether they are in the orbit of San Diego or Los Angeles (though both are counted in L.A. metro area). Irvine is more decisively in L.A.'s solar system, but culturally aligned? Hard to say.
Inland Empire residents will more quickly identify as "L.A.", but that doesn't count for anything.
Ultimately I did vote for the Inland Empire based on their early rise to prominence with the L.A. basin for agriculture. I wouldn't say a vote for OC is wrong though.
I only used South OC because I figured the Northern part would have enough connections to LA while being coastal for it to be a blowout win for the OC
San Clemente, and to a lesser extent Newport exist in a gray area where it is not immediately obvious whether they are in the orbit of San Diego or Los Angeles (though both are counted in L.A. metro area). Irvine is more decisively in L.A.'s solar system, but culturally aligned? Hard to say.
Inland Empire residents will more quickly identify as "L.A.", but that doesn't count for anything.
Ultimately I did vote for the Inland Empire based on their early rise to prominence with the L.A. basin for agriculture. I wouldn't say a vote for OC is wrong though.
Inland Empire residents do not "identify" as "L.A" as you put it, if anything more California or Socal. Most IE residents are from LA anyway?
Also what makes you the authority on "what counts for anything"? If a resident/native stakes a claim on something who are you to dispute that?
The IE for sure. Many or most IE residents moved there from LA or are one generation removed. Many or most still have family or friends in LA.
I feel like OC residents are much more detached from LA and have fewer ties. OC in general and the 949 especially go out of their way to avoid any LA connection.
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These really are a couple of extreme examples….South Orange County is where the previous white flighters fled even further south. Many of these same types often told me when I lived there that “we’re not LA” and claimed superiority to it and despised LA (them, not me and/or they suddenly love LA temporarily when boosting a CD thread that supports their position). Irvine is somewhat of an exception with Persian and Asian communities.
Inland Empire is more blue collar and definitely more conservative than most of LA even though Democrats have made some recent gains (mostly from newer residents).
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Inland Empire residents do not "identify" as "L.A" as you put it, if anything more California or Socal. Most IE residents are from LA anyway? Also what makes you the authority on "what counts for anything"? If a resident/native stakes a claim on something who are you to dispute that?
I wouldn't give weight to either scenario pointed out in this thread- that south OC residents would be less likely to associate with L.A. or that IE residents would be more likely. If we were talking about smaller cities I might, but that's not the case.
Since the IE's biggest population boom (1960-1990) happened concurrently with L.A.'s population booming, I'm not sure its the case that the majority of IE residents migrated there from L.A.
I voted based on historical connections, which I feel are stronger with the Inland Empire (Irvine was only recently incorporated as a city), but tbh this is a toss up and could go either way.
I wouldn't give weight to either scenario pointed out in this thread- that south OC residents would be less likely to associate with L.A. or that IE residents would be more likely. If we were talking about smaller cities I might, but that's not the case.
Since the IE's biggest population boom (1960-1990) happened concurrently with L.A.'s population booming, I'm not sure its the case that the majority of IE residents migrated there from L.A.
I voted based on historical connections, which I feel are stronger with the Inland Empire (Irvine was only recently incorporated as a city), but tbh this is a toss up and could go either way.
Imo most of Southern California is similar culturally. It also depends more on income bracket rather than physical location. People of the more blue or white collar background will have more in common with one another more than where they live.
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