California homelessness? (Coachella: foreclose, lenders, felony)

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by JGC97

Leaving out politics or anything related to it, wouldn't we all like to see the past erased by the present? I know I would. lol

Youbetcha

[colobound65]

Originally Posted by njbiodude

Thank you!

Many on this forum, myself included weren’t alive when Reagan was governor—it’s completely absurd this guy still gets flak for things done while he was governor. The state has had a Democratic supermajority for decades if they want liberal legislation passed it’s not hard to do. It’s not like the Federal government where overturning decades old legislation is much harder to do as one congressional filibuster can stop almost anything.

There were problems with the mental health facilities in the 1960s. They were doing electroshock treatment and treating people like stray dogs at the pound or worse. They also often didn’t help anyone. That’s why a lot of them were closed.

Functional halfway houses for people with mental illness still exist and help people get structure in their lives and employment. And drug treatment and short-term jail stints can still get people sober.

The problem is people are allowed to live unhoused because the weather is good. There’s no tolerance for drug use in shelters/halfway houses so the people that want to do it can’t live there. A court case in the ninth circuit allows anyone to pitch a tent in any public park so why not do so in the place with the absolute best weather and cook up your fentanyl with impunity?

There’s also only so much desirable coastal land in CA and it’s very expensive. Liberal groups think money is no issue so build shelters in places like SF or Santa Cruz that cost millions when they could be building cheap shelters or micro homes in less desirable parts of the state for 1/20 the cost. But liberals feel that homeless drug addicts should live next to their neighbors that work 60 hours a week in demanding jobs that require extensive experience and higher education. After all everyone should live near the beach in places like Santa Cruz right next to multimillion dollar homes, right? Except there’s nowhere left to build homes and every new housing development is attacked with a plethora of lawsuits.

A good comparison of states that let drugs run freely and not is Idaho and Oregon …. states right next to each other but worlds apart. If liberal states can adapt conservative states rules and laws things would start to turn around but sadly it’ll probably never happen till it’s too late. And blaming Reagan is desperate and stupid. It sounds like something Newsom would say

[njbiodude]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

Where do you come up with this stuff?

Go outside.

Look where they’re building homeless shelters?

It’s in insanely expensive places like downtown SF. For the cost of 1 shelter in SF you could give 1000 homeless people permanent mini-homes in the Mojave desert.

The liberals complain “that’s not where they’re from” so they deserve to be in ultra expensive desirable areas even if they pay nothing. Your tax dollars at work.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by njbiodude

Go outside.

Look where they’re building homeless shelters?

It’s in insanely expensive places like downtown SF.

Sorry; I don't live in San Francisco, so the suggestion to "go outside" doesn't apply. And when I did a search for new housing in S.F for the homeless, all I could find was information from last fall about a converted hotel there.

San Francisco, CA -- Mayor London N. Breed today announced the grand opening of the Diva Hotel, a seven-story permanent supportive housing (PSH) development serving adults exiting homelessness. The City partnered with Episcopal Community Services (ECS) to secure funding through the State of California’s Homekey program, which paid for the acquisition of the building.

https://www.sf.gov/news/san-francisc...s-homelessness

[njbiodude]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

Sorry; I don't live in San Francisco, so the suggestion to "go outside" doesn't apply. And when I did a search for new housing in S.F for the homeless, all I could find was information from last fall about a converted hotel there.

San Francisco, CA -- Mayor London N. Breed today announced the grand opening of the Diva Hotel, a seven-story permanent supportive housing (PSH) development serving adults exiting homelessness. The City partnered with Episcopal Community Services (ECS) to secure funding through the State of California’s Homekey program, which paid for the acquisition of the building.

https://www.sf.gov/news/san-francisc...s-homelessness

The purchase of the building itself costed about 30 million. It houses 122 people.

There’s plenty of other administrative and other costs as well.

On the other hand the state could’ve spent $30 million to build micro homes in the outskirts of Redding and probably housed 800-1000 people.

Other associated costs would be much lower too.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by njbiodude

Go outside.

Look where they’re building homeless shelters?

It’s in insanely expensive places like downtown SF. For the cost of 1 shelter in SF you could give 1000 homeless people permanent mini-homes in the Mojave desert.

The liberals complain “that’s not where they’re from” so they deserve to be in ultra expensive desirable areas even if they pay nothing. Your tax dollars at work.

No liquor stores or stores that carry THC in the desert breh.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by njbiodude

Go outside.

Look where they’re building homeless shelters?

It’s in insanely expensive places like downtown SF. For the cost of 1 shelter in SF you could give 1000 homeless people permanent mini-homes in the Mojave desert.

The liberals complain “that’s not where they’re from” so they deserve to be in ultra expensive desirable areas even if they pay nothing. Your tax dollars at work.

I lived in the Mojave Desert, 15 million people live in the Mojave desert, I doubt if they would take kindly to your grand idea of dumping the homeless people there. You also suggested putting the homeless near Redding, 800-1000 of them? Are you serious? Redding is a city of almost 100k people. And in another post you claimed there are plenty of half-way houses and if not, then there are alway jails that will get people sober. However being addicted to drugs or alcohol is not a crime, there is absolutely no way that a person who has not committed a crime could be put in jail to 'get sober'. If you are going to make claims, then try to get information on their viability because so far you are batting zero.

[colobound65]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

I lived in the Mojave Desert, 15 million people live in the Mojave desert, I doubt if they would take kindly to your grand idea of dumping the homeless people there. You also suggested putting the homeless near Redding, 800-1000 of them? Are you serious? Redding is a city of almost 100k people. And in another post you claimed there are plenty of half-way houses and if not, then there are alway jails that will get people sober. However being addicted to drugs or alcohol is not a crime, there is absolutely no way that a person who has not committed a crime could be put in jail to 'get sober'. If you are going to make claims, then try to get information on their viability because so far you are batting zero.

Says the true blue liberal. Just keep digging that Ca grave you guys are good at it.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by colobound65

Says the true blue liberal. Just keep digging that Ca grave you guys are good at it.

oohh you got triggered!

[njbiodude]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

I lived in the Mojave Desert, 15 million people live in the Mojave desert, I doubt if they would take kindly to your grand idea of dumping the homeless people there. You also suggested putting the homeless near Redding, 800-1000 of them? Are you serious? Redding is a city of almost 100k people. And in another post you claimed there are plenty of half-way houses and if not, then there are alway jails that will get people sober. However being addicted to drugs or alcohol is not a crime, there is absolutely no way that a person who has not committed a crime could be put in jail to 'get sober'. If you are going to make claims, then try to get information on their viability because so far you are batting zero.

Homeless people with homes aren’t homeless so they’ll shower and be clean.

Being high on illegal drugs (barring Marijuana which is quasi legal) is illegal. Someone punching out a window of a car to steal can easily be given a drug test at a police station and charged. Same for someone living in a tent on a street corner with drugs in it.

A 3-4 week stint in county lockup sobers people up. While guards tolerate some level of drug use from long-term inmates 3 weeks will get you through a very painful withdrawal period for drugs like Heroin and leave you clear headed. Might make people think again whether this is good idea. Instead now cities have cashless bail and the same degenerates are back on the streets in a few hours stealing, defecating on the street and being in general garbage humans.