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Old 01-23-2017, 06:54 AM
 
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Just change out the filter every 5000 miles or so. If you're having to add a quart every few weeks the oil is changing itself through attrition.
In theory yes......but what about the contaminants in the old oil....where is that going?
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Old 01-23-2017, 06:56 AM
 
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Would not use a pump to extract. The engine is not designed to have all that junke sucked out this way.

Got to your local service station and have them change the drain plug. The honda odessey can last 400000 miles no problem! Every timing belt replacement gives you 90000 miles of life, at the least.

I would drain and replace the transmission fluid with Honda Tranny fluid. Have them drain and replace . Should take 4+ quarts.

If you plan on holding onto the van for a while, it is worth the small investment.
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Old 01-23-2017, 07:30 AM
 
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And once you get that oil pan replaced install a Fumoto valve on it so you don't have to deal with this issue down the road
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Old 01-23-2017, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Keosauqua, Iowa
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In theory yes......but what about the contaminants in the old oil....where is that going?
The filter catches them, if changed regularly. The only reason you should have anything other than oil in your pan is if the filter is completely plugged and the oil is just going through the bypass valve.
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Old 01-23-2017, 10:41 AM
 
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Just take your van to a mechanic who has the proper tools to remove the oil drain plug. If you don't want the mechanic to change the oil, at least he can loosen the plug for you. My goodness! It would cost you an hour of shop labor, plus a filter and oil to take care of the van.
This. If the threads are damaged, then they should be able to attempt a repair, or re-tap to a larger plug.

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And once you get that oil pan replaced install a Fumoto valve on it so you don't have to deal with this issue down the road
My M5 has 2 drain plugs that I swapped out with Fumotos. They came with the ****ty recessed hex plug and when using an allen wrench, it's really easy to round off, and then you're in a world of hurt. The OP needs this one
https://www.amazon.com/Fumoto-F-106-.../dp/B003OXUPOQ
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Old 01-23-2017, 10:45 AM
 
Location: NYC
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I don't get why the OP doesn't simply just change the filter and let the oil drain out that way and flush it some more with fresh oil. It's messy but gets the job done.
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Old 01-23-2017, 12:21 PM
 
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When should I expect the engine to die? I cannot change oil on my 04 Odyssey because an oversized drain nut was used on the oil pan and cannot be loosened. Car was bought for $1500 and has over 240k miles so any money spent to change the oil pan is not worth it. Every few weeks I top it off with synthetic oil. Other than this issue, van has been running smoothly like a champ. Will the engine die and how many more miles I can get before that happens? Thanks.

This ideology just boggles my mind.


200 bucks to fix existing van


or


1500 to buy a new van when this van dies
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Old 01-25-2017, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Eastern Washington
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This, except that it's insane to spend $120 for an oil extractor.

I have a 12v oil extractor I bought on Amazon. You just clip onto the battery terminals to power it. I use old plastic gallon water jugs to collect the used oil. Car. Diesel on the boat. Lawn mower. Outboard motor on the dinghy. For $16.95 with free shipping, it's a very useful gadget.

https://www.amazon.com/Fluid-Diesel-.../dp/B00AOAFP9C


In an old car where you constantly have to add oil, changing the filter occasionally is probably a bigger deal than changing the oil. 15,000 shouldn't be a problem. The oil filter will clog eventually so change that.
I bought a topside oil changer from Northern Tool for about $50. OP could get one of those and do an oil change with it. You vacuum the oil out through the dipstick tube.

Just running an engine to destruction because of a screwed up drain plug is nuts. You might get quite a few miles but at least occasionally it's good to get the old oil, full of dirt and contaminants, out, at least IMHO. It's also relatively cheap.
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Old 01-25-2017, 07:21 PM
 
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You can get something like this - Mityvac MV7201 - Fluid Evacuators Model | O'Reilly Auto Parts

You'd basically pump the oil out from the dipstick tube.

Albeit a quick search shows that a replacement oil pan is around the same price. Of course, you'll likely need tools, and other parts.
That is also a great way to do trans fluid, if your car makes that hard to do otherwise. Hot flows better, unless you can get some when cold.
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Old 01-26-2017, 07:54 AM
 
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That is also a great way to do trans fluid, if your car makes that hard to do otherwise. Hot flows better, unless you can get some when cold.
Many cars these days don't have tranny dipsticks anymore. Just drain and fill plugs.
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