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Old 09-10-2023, 04:01 AM
 
Location: Brisbane
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I suspect it’s more about seasonal acclimatisation, rather than how “cold” winter is in absolute terms. If summer days are constantly in the mid to high 30Cs, often with very high humidity, it’s not surprising that a 16C day in winter feels “cold.”

I live in NSW where winter nights can get down to -10C and winter days usually stay below 8-10C except for a very short spike in the afternoon.

The first autumn day with a maximum of 16C, for example, always feels cool or “cold.” The first spring day with the same maximum always feels unbearably “hot.”

Agreed totally, +10 can feel really hot to some who has just come from somwhere where it was -20, on the other side the same person might feel bitterly cold if they had just come from a cliamte where it was +30.
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Old 09-10-2023, 09:29 PM
 
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Agreed totally, +10 can feel really hot to some who has just come from somwhere where it was -20, on the other side the same person might feel bitterly cold if they had just come from a cliamte where it was +30.
On the other hand, a 20 degree day in London, often feels far warmer than a similar temperature in Australia. Even coming from a 30 plus temperature. Feels a different heat.
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Old 09-11-2023, 12:56 AM
 
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Agreed totally, +10 can feel really hot to some who has just come from somwhere where it was -20, on the other side the same person might feel bitterly cold if they had just come from a cliamte where it was +30.
Someone who comes from a climate where 10°C would feel warm would most likely have central heating In their homes which would make Australian winters feel colder indoors than their own climate. Countries that are quite cold actually have very good ways to deal with the cold which can mitigate it.
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Old 09-11-2023, 12:57 AM
 
Location: Perth, Australia
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On the other hand, a 20 degree day in London, often feels far warmer than a similar temperature in Australia. Even coming from a 30 plus temperature. Feels a different heat.
In what way is it a different heat?
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Old 09-11-2023, 02:23 AM
 
Location: Brisbane
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Someone who comes from a climate where 10°C would feel warm would most likely have central heating In their homes which would make Australian winters feel colder indoors than their own climate. Countries that are quite cold actually have very good ways to deal with the cold which can mitigate it.
Which only makes it the aclimitisation problem worse in my opinion.when iving in seoul I sometimes went from +25 inside to -20 the second i stepped ouside the house.

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Old 09-11-2023, 02:45 AM
 
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On the other hand, a 20 degree day in London, often feels far warmer than a similar temperature in Australia. Even coming from a 30 plus temperature. Feels a different heat.
I think we are saying the same thing, yep 20c in London in say february or march when it normally about 5-10 thats shorts weather. If it fell to 20 in Brisbane during february or March when its normally 30, people would be pulling out the pants and jackets and turning on the heaters.
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Old 09-11-2023, 02:57 AM
 
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Default Why do Australians complain about their winters?

Australia's winter is relatively mild, with less contrast between summer and winter temperatures than in the northern continents–though the transition is more dramatically marked in alpine regions of Australia and places of substantial elevation. Seasonal highs and lows can still be considerable.
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Old 09-11-2023, 03:04 AM
 
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Someone who comes from a climate where 10°C would feel warm would most likely have central heating In their homes which would make Australian winters feel colder indoors than their own climate. Countries that are quite cold actually have very good ways to deal with the cold which can mitigate it.
Depends a little on how you define central heating, but ducted systems with a central gas furnace or heat pump are very common in places like southern NSW, Victoria, and Tasmania.

Elsewhere, heat pumps (reverse cycle air-con) are pretty well suited to Aus style open plan homes. Get the right capacity units and you home will be pretty toasty in the cooler months and nice and cool over summer.

One thing that has never ceases to surprise me, though, is that so many people in Sydney or the central coast of NSW, just don't have distinct summer and winter clothes. They'll be out wearing chinos and a cotton shirt in July complaining about how "cold" it is.
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Old 09-11-2023, 03:10 AM
 
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In what way is it a different heat?
A 20-21 feels far warmer in London than Perth for example.
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Old 09-11-2023, 03:13 AM
 
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I think we are saying the same thing, yep 20c in London in say february or march when it normally about 5-10 thats shorts weather. If it fell to 20 in Brisbane during february or March when its normally 30, people would be pulling out the pants and jackets and turning on the heaters.
I lived there a long time and definitely never came close to a 20 degree day in February. I mean a 20-22degree day somehow feels far warmer than it would in say Perth. People would be in parks sun bathing and beaches would be well patronised. Not the same here with same temperature.
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