Atlanta Airport - Airline Service & Routes Updates Thread

[Atlwarrior]

After Frontier's recent service cuts from Atlanta to five cities, they add the following routes:

Gerald R. Ford International Airport (GRR) to Atlanta (ATL).
Long Island MacArthur Airport (ISP) to Atlanta (ATL).
Norfolk International Airport (ORF) to Atlanta (ATL).
Syracuse International Airport (SYR) to Atlanta (ATL).

https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/new...d344beab&ei=16

[testa50]

Originally Posted by Atlwarrior

After Frontier's recent service cuts from Atlanta to five cities, they add the following routes:

Gerald R. Ford International Airport (GRR) to Atlanta (ATL).
Long Island MacArthur Airport (ISP) to Atlanta (ATL).
Norfolk International Airport (ORF) to Atlanta (ATL).
Syracuse International Airport (SYR) to Atlanta (ATL).

https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/new...d344beab&ei=16

Pretty significant downgrade from Liberia Costa Rica, San Diego, SLC, Ontario CA, and San Diego they just nixed. But what's interesting about this is that it represents break from Frontier's Origin-Destination strategy and towards more of a hub-and-spoke with the Atlanta operation. These will presumably feed Montego Bay, San Jose, Fort Lauderdale, Cancun, etc types of flights.

[SEAandATL]

Originally Posted by testa50

Pretty significant downgrade from Liberia Costa Rica, San Diego, SLC, Ontario CA, and San Diego they just nixed. But what's interesting about this is that it represents break from Frontier's Origin-Destination strategy and towards more of a hub-and-spoke with the Atlanta operation. These will presumably feed Montego Bay, San Jose, Fort Lauderdale, Cancun, etc types of flights.

Also Alaska Airlines just added the ATL-SAN route so it's just back down to three airlines that fly direct between those two cities instead of four.

[SEAandATL]

Originally Posted by As Above So Below...

An airline cannot be everything to everyone. They all have holes.

Delta's is Texas, UA's is the Southeast, AA's is the Mountain West and PNW.

Delta has tried to expand in Austin but its been such a miserable failure they have resorted to gate squatting in the form of running flights to Midland and McAllen which cost very little to operate.

UA could never have competed with a DL and Air Tran/Valujet combo in Atlanta. The only cities where UA could have a true Southeast hub are already have major hubs that are protective of their turf (ATL and CLT), are flooded with garbage fares (MCO), or have no gate space (RDU and BNA). So UA will have to go without an SE hub, but that isnt a big deal.

Looks like they might be trying to make Austin a focus city again.

https://thepointsguy.com/news/delta-...pansion-texas/

[MichiganderTexan]

Southwest currently operates up to 119 departures a day from Atlanta. That will decline to 94 daily departures maximum from Atlanta on weekdays in the airline’s revised summer schedule, according to spokesman Dan Landson.

https://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta-air...JMEJRBOHFHCBM/

[KSM0984]

Originally Posted by MichiganderTexan

Southwest currently operates up to 119 departures a day from Atlanta. That will decline to 94 daily departures maximum from Atlanta on weekdays in the airline’s revised summer schedule, according to spokesman Dan Landson.

https://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta-air...JMEJRBOHFHCBM/

Southwest is a poorly run airline. One of the worst in the industry. Just opens up more opportunity for the world's busiest airport. Chicago is being cut in half and Houston Hobby is losing the airline completely.

[testa50]

Originally Posted by KSM0984

Southwest is a poorly run airline. One of the worst in the industry. Just opens up more opportunity for the world's busiest airport. Chicago is being cut in half and Houston Hobby is losing the airline completely.

Beyond useless at this point. I wish there were a way to force them to give up their gates so that Frontier could expand.

[testa50]

Not too much news lately, beyond Southwest tanking Atlanta. That's of course bad news, but kind of inevitable. Too many routes have 4-5 carriers now that Frontier, Jetblue, and Spirit have expanded so much here, and Southwest is finding themselves the odd one out on many of these routes. I don't expect things will get any better for them competitively here; a smaller schedule means even less differentiation against Frontier and Spirit.

One interesting tidbit: Aeromexico is adding an Atlanta - Queretaro route starting in August.

https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/240430-amaug24qroatl

[As Above So Below...]

Originally Posted by KSM0984

Southwest is a poorly run airline. One of the worst in the industry. Just opens up more opportunity for the world's busiest airport. Chicago is being cut in half and Houston Hobby is losing the airline completely.

This is incorrect. Southwest will still very much be at Houston Hobby in a large number. They are leaving Houston Intercontinental. Houston Hobby is Southwest's 7th biggest station. Atlanta is their 14th. They will also still be going very strong at Chicago Midway. Chicago Ohare is what they are cutting in half.

As for whether or not Southwest is run well or not, they have seen better days. But when I think of poorly run airline, Im thinking of American, JetBlue, and Spirit, not Southwest.

Originally Posted by SEAandATL

Looks like they might be trying to make Austin a focus city again.

https://thepointsguy.com/news/delta-...pansion-texas/

They won't be able to make much of Austin. There isn't enough gate space.