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Rezoning agreement means that the turntable stays and the project develops around it. I'm highly suspect that this project ever gets off the ground.
Smoky Hollow 3 details should be out by early 2022, Williams Realty working with their partners on the project plans. It could be the highest floor count in downtown Raleigh.
By the end of the decade, Glenwood South could be unrecognizable with at least 3 new towers @20+ floors, and other substantial redevelopments, especially the Johnson/Glenwood/Peace block. I'm looking forward to the district growing out of its current "spring break" incarnation into something more substantial and urban neighborhood focused.
What's going on Atlantic Ave. @ Whitaker Mill isn't getting the sort of attention that I think it deserves, and I think that it is going to surprise a lot of folks when it's completed.
By the end of the decade, Glenwood South could be unrecognizable with at least 3 new towers @20+ floors, and other substantial redevelopments, especially the Johnson/Glenwood/Peace block. I'm looking forward to the district growing out of its current "spring break" incarnation into something more substantial and urban neighborhood focused.
What's going on Atlantic Ave. @ Whitaker Mill isn't getting the sort of attention that I think it deserves, and I think that it is going to surprise a lot of folks when it's completed.
If they can somehow figure out how to connect the development across Capital Boulevard to downtown or up to North Hills that would be a huge win. That's the major issue in that area right now
With all of these new and expanding developments in and around downtown and midtown, I must believe that the city is considering rail transit of some sort in the long term. There is no way road improvements will suffice. It would only be a bandaid.
With all of these new and expanding developments in and around downtown and midtown, I must believe that the city is considering rail transit of some sort in the long term. There is no way road improvements will suffice. It would only be a bandaid.
There's not enough density for rail transit to make a dent in traffic capacity/congestion. What would you suggest?
That said, Raleigh/Wake is investing in bus rapid transit, not rail.
There's not enough density for rail transit to make a dent in traffic capacity/congestion. What would you suggest?
That said, Raleigh/Wake is investing in bus rapid transit, not rail.
Yeah as of this moment, there's nothing in any of the long-range transportation plans to do any rail besides the Durham-Garner commuter rail line. There is the potential for a future bus rapid transit line between downtown Raleigh and North Hills: https://nmcdn.io/e186d21f8c7946a19fa...ed_Transit.pdf
Yeah as of this moment, there's nothing in any of the long-range transportation plans to do any rail besides the Durham-Garner commuter rail line. There is the potential for a future bus rapid transit line between downtown Raleigh and North Hills: https://nmcdn.io/e186d21f8c7946a19fa...ed_Transit.pdf
There's not enough density for rail transit to make a dent in traffic capacity/congestion. What would you suggest?
That said, Raleigh/Wake is investing in bus rapid transit, not rail.
I would suggest taking the emotion out of it and let’s have better and more rational longer term transit planning...
Let's have this conversation again in 5 or so years. You'll be begging for some transit relief. That's assuming you live and will stay in this area.
Future growth and densification is why long term planning is critical, which this area is not good at. You see it in the educational system, transportation, commercial and residential developments, and even voter districting. The prevailing mentality is do the bare minimum that will get us by today, and worry about the future later...if ever.
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There's not enough density for rail transit to make a dent in traffic capacity/congestion. What would you suggest?
That said, Raleigh/Wake is investing in bus rapid transit, not rail.
Increase zoning density along BRT lines. Incentivize transit oriented development. As redevelopment occurs along the lines implement plans to convert the BRT routes to rail and add new BRT corridors. Increase separated bike lanes so that the last .5 miles to any stop is easy to bike.
Or maybe a gondola.
I think there are enough recent rezonings, or building proposals to double the SF of DTR. Proposals grow on trees but you have to at least have a plan for dealing with the density you're approving on the off chance that the projects come to fruition.
Increase zoning density along BRT lines. Incentivize transit oriented development. As redevelopment occurs along the lines implement plans to convert the BRT routes to rail and add new BRT corridors. Increase separated bike lanes so that the last .5 miles to any stop is easy to bike.
Or maybe a gondola.
I think there are enough recent rezonings, or building proposals to double the SF of DTR. Proposals grow on trees but you have to at least have a plan for dealing with the density you're approving on the off chance that the projects come to fruition.
Thanks for helping to underscore the need for more reasonable transit planning. The buildings are not going to stop going up and the people are not going to stop coming. At least no time soon. We’d better be prepared, but it seems that the boomers are leaving it for future generations to worry about.
There's not enough density for rail transit to make a dent in traffic capacity/congestion. What would you suggest?
That said, Raleigh/Wake is investing in bus rapid transit, not rail.
This is an example of poor urban transit planning. If you look at most larger cities, bus transit is considered transportation for the poor. Very few middle class and wealthy citizens rely on bus transit regularly, if at all. On the otherhand, you will see all income levels take rail transit. Even Billionaire Bloomberg takes the NYC metro.
What's going to happen when Raleigh/Wake County invests millions in providing rapid bus transit, and it fails to materialize financially, which most definitely will happen. Why? Because of the reason I explained earlier. It will mainly serve low income passengers and higher incomes will avoid it like the plague.
With Raleigh and Wake County being a higher income area, and becoming moreso by the day, I fear that this plan is doomed from conception and will only waste taxpayer money.
Again, poor transit planning.
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