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Old 08-21-2023, 03:29 PM
 
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Do we think interest rates are going to continue to climb into September or will they come down? Complete insanity that they are headed toward 8% and there are still bidding wars on homes! Nonetheless, I need a small mortgage, so should I lock in or wait a couple of weeks? Could rates possibly increase???
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Old 08-21-2023, 03:32 PM
 
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if you thinking guessing the direction of stocks is hard , predicting rates this late in the game is close to impossible.

one report released that looks like a slow down can send rates plunging ..

or the opposite if it is hotter than expected
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Old 08-21-2023, 03:52 PM
 
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if you thinking guessing the direction of stocks is hard , predicting rates this late in the game is close to impossible.

one report released that looks like a slow down can send rates plunging ..

or the opposite if it is hotter than expected
They can't continue to rise much more...headed toward 10% interest rates!
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Old 08-24-2023, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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They can't continue to rise much more...headed toward 10% interest rates!
Of course they can continue to rise:



Year 30-year fixed-rate average
Sources: Bankrate (1986 on), Freddie Mac
2022 5.53%
2021 3.15%
2020 3.38%
2019 4.13%
2018 4.70%
2017 4.14%
2016 3.79%
2015 3.99%
2014 4.31%
2013 4.16%
2012 3.88%
2011 4.65%
2010 4.86%
2009 5.38%
2008 6.23%
2007 6.40%
2006 6.47%
2005 5.93%
2004 5.88%
2003 5.89%
2002 6.57%
2001 7.01%
2000 8.08%
1999 7.46%
1998 6.91%
1997 7.57%
1996 7.76%
1995 7.86%
1994 8.28%
1993 7.17%
1992 8.27%
1991 9.09%
1990 9.97%
1989 10.25%
1988 10.38%
1987 10.40%
1986 10.39%
1985 12.43%
1984 13.88%
1983 13.24%
1982 16.04%
1981 16.64%
1980 13.74%
1979 11.20%
1978 9.64%
1977 8.85%
1976 8.87%
1975 9.05%
1974 9.19%
1973 8.04%
1972 7.38%
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Old 08-28-2023, 08:22 AM
 
Location: MID ATLANTIC
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Don't screw around - lock. 33% chance it will go down, 33% chance it will stay the same, 33% chance it will go up. So 66% it will stay the same or get worse.

This is a different lending environment. Lenders are losing money on loans. Many are hoping you actually do not come to them (on certain products). Two years ago, lenders were rolling in cash. Today, they are stretched for cash. And, now auditors are going through all those loans from 2021 and 2022 and calling out and forcing these same lenders to buy back loans they do not like...........or pay 5% penalty. It's not going to take much to tip the cow on small and mid-sized lenders/banks.

Borrowers are out there shopping lenders' rates without a property to even lock in. Hey there, I can lock you in at 6%!!! I also have a bridge or two for sale.

Different environment than even 6 months ago. Lock or lose.
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Old 08-28-2023, 01:41 PM
 
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Could the rates possibly increase???
I would lock because I think rates will go higher. Yes, I'm old, I remember 12pct rates.

Nobody really knows what's going to happen but I don't see us going back to 3pct insanity.
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Old 08-28-2023, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Ashland, Oregon
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My neighbor just told me his interest rate is 2.9 percent. I wonder how many of those loans are out there and how much the banks are losing because of those deals?

I worked at a bank 40 years ago and every morning on the loudspeaker, the Prime Rate was announced. I remember the day it was announced at 20%. You could have heard a pin drop; everyone was stunned.

A co-worker was very excited to have gotten a mortgage for a house with a 9.5% interest rate. We were all so happy for him.

ARMs are no longer a good option. They used to be a way of getting into the market but the banks are losing so much money on those 2.5 percent loans that they have to make it up. An ARM is almost as expensive as the initial 30-year rate.

So, I'd lock in at the 30.
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Old 08-28-2023, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Kansas City North
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I just giggle when there’s all this hand wringing over rates “heading for 10%.” In 1984 I had a one year adjustable rate loan that was about 12 or 13%. I refinanced a different mortgage in the early 90s and went from 10% to 8% and thought I had died and gone to heaven.

If you weren’t a homeowner in the 80s you don’t know mortgage rate pain.
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Old 08-29-2023, 03:55 AM
 
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i was thrilled in 1987 to get 8-1/4
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Old 08-29-2023, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I had a 13% mortgage in the early 80s.
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