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Old 01-21-2022, 07:29 PM
 
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If you want to know what happened, is happening right now, in the Bay Area. Take a trip out there and experience it. Watch out where you step, lots of human excrement on the streets and sidewalks, between the beggars, drug addicts, mentally ill freaks, petty thieves and just plain lazy bums. That’s what you will eventually have in Idaho if what you see continues. It’s bad in California. But they feed them and encourage that behavior in the Bay Area. Weird.
Yes this is so true and it's happening now. It got so bad I had to see a therapist for years.
I literally walked a straight line through the Civic Center BARF station and the streets of the Tenderloin right through the scumbags. It's so easy to get into a confrontation here on a DALY basis. Just got to make sure you have your protective clothing and equipment on and not let the scum bother you and just walk right through them. It's no loss to anyone stomping them into cement.
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Old 01-21-2022, 07:38 PM
 
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This article suggests that while some Californians have moved to Idaho they were not the main driving source:



I just had this discussion with a friend who is a realtor in Nevada. She said everyone blames the huge increases in rent and sales prices of homes in Northern Nevada is due to Californians moving to the state and she said that's just not happening, but what is happening is that real estate investors, corporations and hedge funds are buying every house and apartment complex they can get their hands on and they now own so many that they are one ones setting prices in the area. She also said that the Reno City Council allowed an investor to buy a large number of older motels which were a source of housing for low income families and retirees. They tore the motels down and are now holding the property in order with the goal of some future project that will turn it into a shopping and entertainment mecca. She mentioned that there are no affordable apartments, and the people hurt the most are those who are working for minimum wage ($7.25) or a few dollars more who are now becoming homeless.

And I saw that pattern in Sacramento too, for a long time it was quite affordable, then the investors, both foreign and corporate came in and bought everything they could the result was rent for a 1 bedroom apartment going from $600 to $1300 in a few years. I don't have any answers but I think people buying single family homes not to live in but as an investment should be taxed differently than owner occupied homes and some of that money diverted to the construction of low cost housing. https://sacramentoappraisalblog.com/...ousing-market/
Yes I concur with you on this as my father lived up in the Sac. area for more than 30 years. The investors along with the slum landlords (Section 8) do not help the situation. They are purely in the market to make $$$ so this increases the costs and and in some cases contribute to neighborhood blight. Overall it makes it harder and more expensive to everyone. Absentee landlords along with turning the areas into rentals is a problem. Owner occupied is better. But I concur with you 100% the investors should be taxed differently than owner occupied homes.
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Old 01-22-2022, 09:25 AM
 
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If you want to know what happened, is happening right now, in the Bay Area. Take a trip out there and experience it. Watch out where you step, lots of human excrement on the streets and sidewalks, between the beggars, drug addicts, mentally ill freaks, petty thieves and just plain lazy bums.
Yeah, that's pretty much the worst area, though Venice Beach ("the home of the homeless") is also pretty outrageous. What I don't get is letting them camp wherever they want. Gee, there was a time I would have liked to camp at the beach, but it was illegal. No camping! But the poor homeless, they're allowed to camp at some of the most primo beach property on the Pacific coast. It should be an easy solution -- "Dude, you can't camp here!"

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That’s what you will eventually have in Idaho if what you see continues.
I don't see that happening in a million years. Homeless don't like cold, snowy winters. That's why they're in California.
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Old 01-22-2022, 12:16 PM
 
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I don't see that happening in a million years. Homeless don't like cold, snowy winters. That's why they're in California.
You would think, especially in the wintertime. If we have a homeless issue here in North Idaho, it is pretty much invisible. A couple times a year I'll see someone dressed shabbily on a street corner asking for money, but that's it. They don't tend to stick around very long.

However, just a few miles away in downtown Spokane, they are all over the place. Even a few tents, or makeshift tents under railroad overpasses.
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Old 01-22-2022, 11:07 PM
 
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Yeah, that's pretty much the worst area, though Venice Beach ("the home of the homeless") is also pretty outrageous. What I don't get is letting them camp wherever they want. Gee, there was a time I would have liked to camp at the beach, but it was illegal. No camping! But the poor homeless, they're allowed to camp at some of the most primo beach property on the Pacific coast. It should be an easy solution -- "Dude, you can't camp here!"


I don't see that happening in a million years. Homeless don't like cold, snowy winters. That's why they're in California.
This is true. Also SF government has a special unit that employs city employees dedicated to the homeless. They get free showers, haircuts, counseling and now they have opened up a building for them to shoot up their drugs safely.
This city invites them to come from all over. The weather here is not harsh in comparison to other states. The crazies can make it here.
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Old 01-23-2022, 07:31 AM
 
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This is true. Also SF government has a special unit that employs city employees dedicated to the homeless. They get free showers, haircuts, counseling and now they have opened up a building for them to shoot up their drugs safely.
This city invites them to come from all over. The weather here is not harsh in comparison to other states. The crazies can make it here.
Much of that is incorrect, but I don't want to go 'off topic' here so if you want to discuss SF please take it to the SF forum and we can discuss it in depth.
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Old 01-23-2022, 09:07 AM
 
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Much of that is incorrect, but I don't want to go 'off topic' here so if you want to discuss SF please take it to the SF forum and we can discuss it in depth.
Yeah, some of the Californians who post in the Idaho threads grossly exaggerate what's happening in CA while at the same time worshiping Idaho's corrupt state government.
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Old 01-23-2022, 03:34 PM
 
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There are homeless here in the winters.
They just don't congregate in the cities.
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Old 01-24-2022, 05:26 AM
 
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There are homeless here in the winters.
They just don't congregate in the cities.
ThIs is true, having previously worked in a grocery store, I would see them often, no matter the time of year. Quite a number take refuge in the culverts.
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Old 01-24-2022, 05:33 AM
 
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Yeah, some of the Californians who post in the Idaho threads grossly exaggerate what's happening in CA while at the same time worshiping Idaho's corrupt state government.
Does every post have to be political?
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