[Lillie767]

Originally Posted by Ghaati

Florida doesn't want teachers. They've reduced the necessary qualifications for teachers to work in Florida, and kept the average salaries and raise caps low to ensure that only the most desperate people with the least qualifications will take the job. And then, they'll do the worst job of educating the children, resulting in uneducated or undereducated children whose only skills in life are to "serve their betters." They won't be capable of running a business, or governing a state, or removing a patient's appendix, or diagnosing an illness. They won't be qualified to go into any higher education facility besides other Florida facilities, and no company in any other state will hire those graduates. Florida has pulled out history, civics, literature and the Arts, which results in the students in this state having no understanding of civic engagement or critical thinking. This is intentional. Uneducated kids result in good, mindless worker drones. That's what Florida wants, that's what it'll get.

Thank you for explaining the quality and level of the comments on the Florida forum. The last piece of the puzzle!

[VA Yankee]

Originally Posted by Arcenal813

To be fair, a lot of our public school teachers aren’t the brightest either, bordering on quite dumb in many instances from my experience and observations. That, along with safety and other issues, is a large part of why we pulled our kids out of there.

Rather than strengthen the requirements for teachers and move to improve their qualifications the state has systematically worked to dismantle public education. It would seem their ultimate goal is to leave it as a catch-all for those students and families who cannot or will not go to a private school.

[Ghaati]

Originally Posted by Arcenal813

To be fair, a lot of our public school teachers aren’t the brightest either, bordering on quite dumb in many instances from my experience and observations. That, along with safety and other issues, is a large part of why we pulled our kids out of there.

That's what happens when your state's Board of Education maintains low standards.

[Ghaati]

Originally Posted by Trip Mcnealy

Florida new hires are paid higher than average compared to the rest of the country. Florida teachers are also not required to have a masters degree which id conclude is capping their pay.

They attract the least qualified, and don't incentivize them to become better. "Here's a lot more money for your teachery self. And look - you don't have to teach them ANY of these things that other states have to teach their kids! You'll start out really awesome. Just don't expect raises to rise proportionately. We don't value you enough for that and we make more money by tossing you a bone at the start, and not giving you any once you've been sucked in fully."

[silverct9a]

CRT, Don't Say Gay, Ban those books, mahh rights...mahh freeDUMBS!

[USNRET04]

Florida is Ranked as Number One State for Education by U.S. News & World Report · Florida ranks number one for higher education for the 7th year in a row.

Florida ranks number one for higher education for the 7th year in a row.
Florida boasts the lowest higher education in-state tuition and fees among all states.
The state’s high school graduation rate was 3.7 percentage points above the national average according to U.S. News & World Report.
Florida came in second for completers of two-year degree programs and ranked fourth for four-year graduation rates at higher education institutions.
Florida’s college graduates had less debt at graduation than the national average by nearly $5,000.
Florida ranked 12th overall for the percentage of children enrolled in a preschool program.
Florida improved from third to first in education since Governor DeSantis took office.

Weird.

[2Loud]

Originally Posted by USNRET04

Florida is Ranked as Number One State for Education by U.S. News & World Report · Florida ranks number one for higher education for the 7th year in a row.

Florida ranks number one for higher education for the 7th year in a row.
Florida boasts the lowest higher education in-state tuition and fees among all states.
The state’s high school graduation rate was 3.7 percentage points above the national average according to U.S. News & World Report.
Florida came in second for completers of two-year degree programs and ranked fourth for four-year graduation rates at higher education institutions.
Florida’s college graduates had less debt at graduation than the national average by nearly $5,000.
Florida ranked 12th overall for the percentage of children enrolled in a preschool program.
Florida improved from third to first in education since Governor DeSantis took office.

Weird.

Beat me to it. Something must be working there... I suspect the original article is just a hit piece from an Education Union with tilted statistics to promote a "conservative red state bad" narrative.

[Ghaati]

Originally Posted by USNRET04

Florida is Ranked as Number One State for Education by U.S. News & World Report · Florida ranks number one for higher education for the 7th year in a row.

Florida ranks number one for higher education for the 7th year in a row.
Florida boasts the lowest higher education in-state tuition and fees among all states.
The state’s high school graduation rate was 3.7 percentage points above the national average according to U.S. News & World Report.
Florida came in second for completers of two-year degree programs and ranked fourth for four-year graduation rates at higher education institutions.
Florida’s college graduates had less debt at graduation than the national average by nearly $5,000.
Florida ranked 12th overall for the percentage of children enrolled in a preschool program.
Florida improved from third to first in education since Governor DeSantis took office.

Weird.

Also weird:

West Virginia, which was ranked 47th out of 48 in education, 45th in pre-k-12th grade, ranked #1 in high school graduation.

KY, which was #32 in Education, #27 in pre-k-12, ranked 3rd in high school graduation.

Alabama - 44th in education, 43 in pre-k-12, and 6th in high school graduation.

TN - 33rd education, #34 pre-k-12, and #7 in high school graduation.

FL - #1 in education, #14 pre-k-12, only makes it to #14th place in high school graduations.

Somehow - these schools that have lower school rankings, were able to churn out more graduates than the so-called #1 state for higher education.

That's also according to the US News & World Report.

But that's a news magazine that combines various points of data from various sources and surveys taken by select individuals, and not the source of the data.

[dudenamedric]

Originally Posted by Lillie767

Averages don't always tell the story. It's good to look at the actual data- not the mass media's review of the data.

https://www.nea.org/resource-library...arting-teacher

Florida offers higher starting salaries, higher top pay for teachers with a Bachelor's degree, and higher starting pay for teachers with a Master's degree than Georgia does. Georgia does have a higher overall higher top salary though.

Ocala here. I'm a teacher with a Master's and that equates to an extra $2500/year, roughly $100 extra per check

[Arcenal813]

Originally Posted by dudenamedric

Ocala here. I'm a teacher with a Master's and that equates to an extra $2500/year, roughly $100 extra per check

That's the case with a lot of graduate degrees. I'm an engineer, and a Master's in Engineering does virtually nothing.