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Old 04-01-2024, 09:27 AM
 
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Biden wins Georgia? LMAO!!!! All the last 5 state polls, Biden is losing by an average of 5 in all of them. No state in the South will vote for Joe in 2024. He is very unpopular in the South. Joe "won" GA in 2020 by 0.2% when his approval was near 50+. Today he is 39.


Georgia and Arizona are gone for Biden. North Carolina is not even going to be contested by Joe. Nevada looks bad for Biden, if Joe loses Nevada, it's a short night for Joe. For Joe to win on election by 1 EC , he has to hit a triple by taking PA, WI, MI. With his current numbers, he would be lucky to win 1 out of those 3 states.
The tricky part about Georgia is that Trump is horribly suited to the voters in the Atlanta metro- specifically the college grads and women in the Northern Atlanta suburbs. For whatever reason they vote R in other races but have been the deciding factor in the Ga 2020 Presidential race and three state Seante races going Democratic. And while that was happening the number of minorities, LGBTQ, and college grads living in larger metros has been where the growth was. Black voters in particular have really increased participation.

Biden is sitting on top of enough money to wade into all the battleground states- and NC will be ground zero as that is a state that is seen as very similar to Virginia and Georgia. I'm not sure NC has ever gone without a Dem in statewide office unlike Ga that went 16 years without a Dem winning a statewide race prior to 2020. Even if they are not sure Biden can flip NC (he only lost by 1% in 2020) Dems groups are going to sink in money to have a footing to flip the a Senate or Presidential race in the next 4-8 years.

On a side note- I think Abortion will carry Biden in the Philly suburbs and possibly the W counties in Wisconsin.
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Old 04-01-2024, 09:31 AM
 
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Of course it's your opinion but if you are going to make it public in this forum, criticism it's fair game. What sign on the wall in North Carolina you see that Joe will take it in 2024? Is Joe all of the sudden became popular in the South with a 39% approval. Joe is losing in ALL state polls in NC but somehow he will win it in the general. OK. If is not anti-Trump feelings, what is it because you are not using facts or data on the ground.


I don't see Joe winning 1 state in the South with his unpopular numbers. You know he is @ 39, that's Jimmy Carter's numbers but somehow you ignore all that and say silly things that he will flip a red state. OK. Whatever you say. What's next, Joe will flip Utah.
North Carolina is a blue state- and the R nominee for Governor is very, very conservative and draws a lot of press. Abortion, education, and continuing to attract businesses/research $ will play a big role. The other kicker is that the state has a lot of transplants and a lot of young people aging into the voting pool.

And Biden will definitely with Virginia. The big opening for Biden is the possible # of people who do not support him because he is not liberal enough. Those voters will not be voting for Trump so the big question is can they be convinced to vote at all...

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Old 04-01-2024, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Biden will win 109% of the vote.
Landslide victory.
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Old 04-01-2024, 09:59 AM
 
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Nevada’s economy is growing and doing well. Californians have moved in and are great tippers so people that work in the casinos are making more money than ever. A friend of mine is a cocktail waitress during the day and her tips doubled so she is making 95k/year working 4 days a week. We have technology companies that are paying high wages.

Even the fast food restaurants have to pay 18/hour because they can’t get employees otherwise. I wish we had 2 younger candidates. However, I don’t know one person that is voting for trump regardless of their political affiliation.

You must be a Democrat or hanging with different people. Are you a teacher? Nevada has the worst unemployment rate in the country. Gas and grocery prices are still among the nation's highest and most Nevada voters are blaming Joe. Don't take my word for it (I go to Las Vegas all the time, I live next door) New York Times just wrote an article about The Nevada's struggling economy: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/07/u...nomy-2024.html


That's why Republicans kicked out an incumbent Democrat governor in 2022 and Cortez barely held her Senate seat easily held by Democrats since 1986 by 0.7% because things are so great in Nevada.

I guess the Nevada polls are so wrong that you can't find 1 person voting for Trump. Joe is so popular in Nevada. Let's ignore that he is losing in all the state polls but you can't find 1 person that is voting for Trump. I find it strange since Joe's approval in your state is @ 39. You must be a teacher in the public schools.

On the side, a Cocktail waitress making 95k a year only working 4 days? Yeah, that is part of Biden's build back better policies. Sorry but she is doing a lot more than bringing drinks to gamblers. She just brings the drinks in a tight mini skirt, she doesn't even makes em. I find that funny.
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Old 04-01-2024, 10:24 AM
 
Location: The Piedmont of North Carolina
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If it's a campaign about the issues - Trump

If it's a campaign about personality - Biden

This election will be decided by the number of emotional voters, not logical voters, I fear.
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Old 04-01-2024, 10:36 AM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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This election will be decided by the number of emotional voters, not logical voters, I fear.
That's obviously the Dem business plan.

I don-t know about other states, but in WI the rural vote used to be solidly Dem. Now it's all GOP.
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Old 04-01-2024, 10:42 AM
 
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North Carolina is a blue state- and the R nominee for Governor is very, very conservative and draws a lot of press. Abortion, education, and continuing to attract businesses/research $ will play a big role. The other kicker is that the state has a lot of transplants and a lot of young people aging into the voting pool.

And Biden will definitely with Virginia. The big opening for Biden is the possible # of people who do not support him because he is not liberal enough. Those voters will not be voting for Trump so the big question is can they be convinced to vote at all...

Regarding younger voters...

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Young Voters Are More Concerned With the Economy. That’s Bad for Biden

At a time when Donald Trump is cutting into Biden’s 2020 advantage with young adults, the growing list of grievances among those between the ages 18-29 is a worrying sign for Biden as he seeks a second term.

People in that age cohort are more than twice as likely to cite the economy as their top concern compared with older adults in recent Gallup data. And while all voters are more worried about the economy now than they were heading into the 2020 presidential election, the pessimism has spiked the most among those under 30.

That concern is being reflected in polls. Trump is currently leading the president 47% to 40% with voters 18-34 in swing states, according to a March Bloomberg News/Morning Consult poll. By contrast, Biden won 61% of voters under 30 last cycle.

Though the November election is months off and attitudes can shift, there’s no doubt Biden will need support from Generation Z and Millennial voters to win.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/young-vot...100000722.html
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Old 04-01-2024, 10:43 AM
 
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The tricky part about Georgia is that Trump is horribly suited to the voters in the Atlanta metro- specifically the college grads and women in the Northern Atlanta suburbs. For whatever reason they vote R in other races but have been the deciding factor in the Ga 2020 Presidential race and three state Seante races going Democratic. And while that was happening the number of minorities, LGBTQ, and college grads living in larger metros has been where the growth was. Black voters in particular have really increased participation.

Biden is sitting on top of enough money to wade into all the battleground states- and NC will be ground zero as that is a state that is seen as very similar to Virginia and Georgia. I'm not sure NC has ever gone without a Dem in statewide office unlike Ga that went 16 years without a Dem winning a statewide race prior to 2020. Even if they are not sure Biden can flip NC (he only lost by 1% in 2020) Dems groups are going to sink in money to have a footing to flip the a Senate or Presidential race in the next 4-8 years.

On a side note- I think Abortion will carry Biden in the Philly suburbs and possibly the W counties in Wisconsin.



First, take 2020 out of the equation. It was an abysmal year with the pandemic, government shut down and making millions of Americans dependent on government and handouts. That will throw any election to the candidate promising more freebies.


2nd, in a normal year, Biden sucks. He proved that in 1988 and 2008. His numbers in 2024 are tanking because it's a normal year and he doesn't have much to offer and Kamala Harris has worse numbers. Nothing scarier of a Biden 2nd term than Kamala being President.





3rd, We are in a normal cycle and Joe is losing in ALL Georgia polls by 5+ average. His support from the black community has taken a hit since 2020 but you see something in Georgia that others don't see? Is Joe that popular in GA.


4th: Biden lost NC by 1% during a pandemic year and government shutdown and millions of Americans depended on the government and when Joe had an approval of 50% and offered the most freebies. Today he at 39 approval and no handouts will save him.


5th: Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton outspent Trump 3 to 1 and Trump beat them. Money is not saving Joe. He is running on his record and all the polls says Americans are not happy with his record and don't want Kamala as President.


6th: Inflation and economy ranks that top issues for 2024. You must be a Democrat that thinks abortions will decide the election. Abortion is a state issue not a WH issue. Biden is so bad in the economy and border that Democrats are trying to make the abortion issue into a crisis and make it as the #1 issue in 2024 when that is far from reality.
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Old 04-01-2024, 10:51 AM
 
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North Carolina is a blue state- and the R nominee for Governor is very, very conservative and draws a lot of press. Abortion, education, and continuing to attract businesses/research $ will play a big role. The other kicker is that the state has a lot of transplants and a lot of young people aging into the voting pool.

And Biden will definitely with Virginia. The big opening for Biden is the possible # of people who do not support him because he is not liberal enough. Those voters will not be voting for Trump so the big question is can they be convinced to vote at all...

North Carolina a blue state? Biden can win Virginia, Hillary won Virginia. Trump doesn't need Virginia.
You are really in a liberal bubble. Joe is @ 39 approval. That is Jimmy Carter's numbers. That has a lot to do more than just not being liberal "enough". If Biden's numbers on the economy are tanking then he is gone. Time to wake up.
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Old 04-01-2024, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Central Mass
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This election will be decided by the number of emotional voters, not logical voters, I fear.
Welcome to the 20th century.

Public votes are never decided by logical voters. See: tallest candidate wins, most charismatic candidate wins, like to have a beer with, etc.
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