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Old 05-10-2024, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Woburn, MA / W. Hartford, CT
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Really? Can you offer proper verification for this? The Maricopa County supervisor was speaking in a leaked recording how the audit they performed only counted 2% of purported votes, not the full extensivity of what was received as apparent votes. The man was actually forced to resign as a result of this.
This was in the news a long time ago. 360 more votes for Biden from this recount.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...n-won-n1279997
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Old 05-10-2024, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Where did I ever say otherwise? "Charged and convicted" by a jury of his peers, and of course presumed innocent because the burden of proof is on the prosecution. Just as happened to Enrique Tarrio and Stewart Rhodes. They were convicted and handed long sentences by a TRUMP-appointed judge.
You said otherwise in this post, the one in which I highlighted your claim of Trump's guilt.

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^That's unfortunate and a result of incompetence. We all wish he had been charged right after J6, just like the rest of his misfits were. He'd be a convicted felon under probation by now (I'm not stupid enough to think any judge would've sentenced him to jail). That would have been enough of a deterrent to prevent all his BS about planning a repeat of J6 in 2024.
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Old 05-10-2024, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Woburn, MA / W. Hartford, CT
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You said otherwise in this post, the one in which I highlighted your claim of Trump's guilt.
Convicted = by a jury of his peers, in a court where he's presumed innocent until proven guilty. No contradiction there. There's a preponderance of evidence, enough to overcome any reasonable doubt. Just ask Rhodes and Tarrio at whose behest they committed their crimes.
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Old 05-10-2024, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Convicted = by a jury of his peers, in a court where he's presumed innocent until proven guilty. No contradiction there. There's a preponderance of evidence, enough to overcome any reasonable doubt. Just ask Rhodes and Tarrio at whose behest they committed their crimes.
In other words, you've made up your mind that Trump is guilty. This leads us to the conclusion that you don't believe in "innocent until proven guilty."

Nobody is accusing you of a contradiction. You make it very clear that you, without seeing all of the evidence or hearing all of the testimony, have already decided that Trump is guilty.
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Old 05-10-2024, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Woburn, MA / W. Hartford, CT
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In other words, you've made up your mind that Trump is guilty. This leads us to the conclusion that you don't believe in "innocent until proven guilty."

Nobody is accusing you of a contradiction. You make it very clear that you, without seeing all of the evidence or hearing all of the testimony, have already decided that Trump is guilty.
"without seeing all of the evidence" - what a joke.

If the Trump / Raffensperger call was all there was--that would be sufficient. But the evidence is voluminous. Have you even read the indictments? This wasn't stuff that MSNBC made up. It was evidence and testimony collected under oath, and presented to 4 different grand juries. Yes, Trump gets his day in court, and the government has to make its case.

No contradiction, and no "gotcha" despite what you may believe.
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Old 05-22-2024, 08:14 PM
 
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What are your electoral college predictions for November 2024, and the Biden vs Trump matchup?

It's a tough thing to predict, but I think it will come down to a handful of states, as usual.

Predicted blue states:

Maine (1)
New Hampshire (4)
Vermont (3)
Massachusetts (11)
Rhode Island (4)
Connecticut (7)
New York (28)
New Jersey (14)
Delaware (3)
Maryland (10)
Washington DC (3)
Virginia (13)
Michigan (15)
Wisconsin (10)
Illinois (19)
Minnesota (10)
Nebraska (1)
Colorado (10)
New Mexico (5)
Nevada (6)
Washington (12)
Oregon (8)
California (54)
Hawaii (4)

Total: 255



Predicted red states:

Ohio (17)
West Virginia (4)
Indiana (11)
Kentucky (8)
Tennessee (11)
Alabama (9)
South Carolina (9)
Mississippi (6)
Florida (30)
Louisiana (8)
Arkansas (6)
Missouri (10)
Iowa (6)
North Dakota (3)
South Dakota (3)
Nebraska (4)
Kansas (6)
Oklahoma (7)
Texas (40)
Montana (4)
Wyoming (3)
Idaho (4)
Utah (6)
Alaska (3)


Total: 218



Battleground states:

Pennsylvania (19)
*leans blue
Georgia (16)
*tossup
North Carolina (16)
*leans red
Arizona (11)
*tossup

Total: 62


I predict Biden gets Pennsylvania and Georgia.

While Trump gets Arizona and North Carolina.


Biden: 290

Trump: 245



What are your thoughts and predictions?

I think you will be unhappy in November, unless the DNC can print about 20 million extra Biden votes.

There is no way Biden wins a legitimate, fair election. He is one of the most unpopular presidents in US history, is unlikable, demented, snarky, incompetent, and corrupt.

Biden is probably one of the worst CANDIDATES in US history. There is no way in hell he would legitimately gain the most votes of any presidential candidate in US history.

The dems need to be careful, as the degree of fraud to install Biden again would be MASSIVE and thus would be easily detected. It would be a prelude to secession, as the DNC would have essentially revoked the voting rights of every US citizen.
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Old 05-22-2024, 08:16 PM
 
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In other words, you've made up your mind that Trump is guilty. This leads us to the conclusion that you don't believe in "innocent until proven guilty."

Nobody is accusing you of a contradiction. You make it very clear that you, without seeing all of the evidence or hearing all of the testimony, have already decided that Trump is guilty.
Dems, as they are fascists, do not believe in the rule of law nor equal protection under the law.

Conservatives view the law as rules to live by. Democrats view the law as an instrument to attack opponents and an obstacle to overcome in achieving their goals. This is a HUGE FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LIBS AND CONSERVATIVES and demonstrates how and why we cannot co-exist much longer with libs who hold these views.
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Old 05-23-2024, 01:42 AM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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Should be 535-0 Trump. Unfortunately we have some deep blue hellholes that are forever lost.
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Old 05-24-2024, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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I think you will be unhappy in November, unless the DNC can print about 20 million extra Biden votes.

There is no way Biden wins a legitimate, fair election. He is one of the most unpopular presidents in US history, is unlikable, demented, snarky, incompetent, and corrupt.

Biden is probably one of the worst CANDIDATES in US history. There is no way in hell he would legitimately gain the most votes of any presidential candidate in US history.

The dems need to be careful, as the degree of fraud to install Biden again would be MASSIVE and thus would be easily detected. It would be a prelude to secession, as the DNC would have essentially revoked the voting rights of every US citizen.
Maybe so.

But you are forgetting that Trump is a terrible candidate. People are tired of his antics and drama, including a large % of Republican voters, who will vote for Biden or abstain from voting.

If the GOP had a decent candidate, I think Biden would lose. But Trump is just awful, so Biden is re-elected.
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Old 05-25-2024, 09:41 AM
 
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Oh, it's still very early...not a hard prediction, more a guesstimated projection...and the situation is still fluid...

Right now, it looks like the 20 dark blue states, DC, and the Blue district in Nebraska give Biden 226 electoral votes. The 25 dark red states and the Red district in Maine give Trump 218 votes.

Toss-ups and leaners are Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.

Of those, Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, and North Carolina all look to be leaning red, pushing Trump's electoral count to 268 votes. He needs just one more electoral vote to push it to a contingent election in the US House or one more state to win outright. And if the election gets thrown to the House, Trump wins.

The "Blue Wall" states of Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin if they do deliver the electoral votes to Biden, put him at 271 votes. But there's no Blue Wall this election; each state is polling within the margin of error. It's somewhere between possible and probable that Trump snags one of these states.

One observation - the Trump campaign and Nebraska legislators friendly to Trump tried to change their state's methodology of assigning their electoral votes. While it did fail to pass in the Nebraska legislature, IMO it indicates how tight the Trump campaign perceives the 2024 election.
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