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Old 03-26-2024, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Why is it surprising that he's winning? Maryland elected him their governor, in the same "deep blue" state. I like Larry, he's old school, he will work with the other side. As far from MAGA as you can get, which is why he appeals to both sides. I was hoping he'd accept No Labels offer to be on their ticket.
Elections for Governor are typically not as partisan as Elections for Senate and other Federal office. Hogan is certainly by far the strongest General Election candidate the GOP could have for Senate, but it will be interesting to see if he has the same staying power as we get closer to the Election, running for Senate that he did when he ran and won for Governor. Phi Bredesen comes to mind as an example. He was moderate former Democratic Governor of Tennessee, ran for Senate in 2018, and polled pretty well early on and while he wound up doing better than most Democrats would do running for Senate in Tennessee, he still lost by a comfortable margin. Now, he was out of office a bit longer than Hogan currently is, but it is something to compare to.
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Old 03-26-2024, 03:33 PM
 
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How is Hogan going to vote if Trump is President? He might vote more with dems because he hates Trump so much.


Hogan says he won’t vote for Trump amid GOP Senate bid

https://thehill.com/elections/451618...2024-election/
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Old 03-26-2024, 03:51 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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How is Hogan going to vote if Trump is President? He might vote more with dems because he hates Trump so much.


Hogan says he won’t vote for Trump amid GOP Senate bid

https://thehill.com/elections/451618...2024-election/
No conservative should vote for Grimace. We would be better off with Trone or Alsobrooks.
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Old 03-26-2024, 04:47 PM
 
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Elections for Governor are typically not as partisan as Elections for Senate and other Federal office. Hogan is certainly by far the strongest General Election candidate the GOP could have for Senate, but it will be interesting to see if he has the same staying power as we get closer to the Election, running for Senate that he did when he ran and won for Governor. Phi Bredesen comes to mind as an example. He was moderate former Democratic Governor of Tennessee, ran for Senate in 2018, and polled pretty well early on and while he wound up doing better than most Democrats would do running for Senate in Tennessee, he still lost by a comfortable margin. Now, he was out of office a bit longer than Hogan currently is, but it is something to compare to.
How high was his approval rating as governor? Was he also a moderate? Larry Hogan has a very very high approval rating, including 81% of Democrats saying they approve of the job he was doing as governor in a Jan 2023 poll. In 2018 he won by a wider margin than any gubernatorial candidate in the states history. 31% of Dems voted for him. The only group he lost was voters younger than 29.

It goes to show most people want moderates, regardless of party. If he ran for President, or Chris Sununu, or Andy Beshear, they’d win in a landslide.

https://www.marylandmatters.org/2023...n%20is%20doing.
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Old 03-26-2024, 05:25 PM
 
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How is Hogan going to vote if Trump is President? He might vote more with dems because he hates Trump so much.


Hogan says he won’t vote for Trump amid GOP Senate bid

https://thehill.com/elections/451618...2024-election/
He won't vote for Trump, but as a Senator and with Trump as President, he would vote to confirm Trump's court nominees and majority of Republican backed legislation that Trump would like to pass.

He'd be like Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski.
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Old 03-26-2024, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Silver Spring, MD
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This is probably the better indication of how the election will go:

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Fifty-five percent in the poll said they hope Democrats hold on to the chamber, while just 35 percent said they hope Republicans take over. Another 11 percent were undecided.
Even if people prefer Hogan they are more likely to support the party over anything.
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Old 03-26-2024, 05:50 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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This is probably the better indication of how the election will go:



Even if people prefer Hogan they are more likely to support the party over anything.
So they’re lying in the poll when they say they’ll vote for Grimace but telling the truth for the part of the poll you like. Got it.
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Old 03-26-2024, 06:16 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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How high was his approval rating as governor? Was he also a moderate? Larry Hogan has a very very high approval rating, including 81% of Democrats saying they approve of the job he was doing as governor in a Jan 2023 poll. In 2018 he won by a wider margin than any gubernatorial candidate in the states history. 31% of Dems voted for him. The only group he lost was voters younger than 29.

It goes to show most people want moderates, regardless of party. If he ran for President, or Chris Sununu, or Andy Beshear, they’d win in a landslide.

https://www.marylandmatters.org/2023...n%20is%20doing.
Doesn't matter. There's a regular over in the Maryland forum who thought Hogan was great, or so he said, but also said he wouldn't vote for him. Most of the Democrats I know are the same.

Bob Ehrlich had a high approval rating going into reelection in 2006, well over 50% and hovering around 60%. He lost to O' Malley.
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Old 03-26-2024, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Silver Spring, MD
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So they’re lying in the poll when they say they’ll vote for Grimace but telling the truth for the part of the poll you like. Got it.
It shows that people are not in sync with what they say they want to do and what they want to happen. The results to the second question are closer to the poll's party demographics. It's going to come down to what people value more, and in politics recently for those not happy with their options, it's party that wins out.
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Old 03-26-2024, 06:42 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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It shows that people are not in sync with what they say they want to do and what they want to happen. The results to the second question are closer to the poll's party demographics. It's going to come down to what people value more, and in politics recently for those not happy with their options, it's party that wins out.
There is no shortage of unhinged Marxists in Maryland who will recognize that electing Grimace will do far more damage to President Trump and the Republican Party than any Democrat Senator will do. Those people will be voting for Hogan, because they know he will do everything he can to undermine the President and conservatives.
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