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Maybe the problem is that you don't consider how other posters may perceive you...particularly after you have hit a nerve (so to speak). Let's face it, when one goes on almost any forum the environment is often chock full of insensitivity.
Sorry to butt-in. Per posts here TNFF is usually less strident and rigid than you.
When's the last time you considered how other posters might perceive you?
Actually they are worse than opinions. They provide the illusion of information. At least opinions are recognized as such. Poor charts provide an appearance of information that isn't there. See bad data visualization for more background.
Exactly! It really is an illusion, that sadly many buy into.
Good data visualization is an important topic and there has been a great deal of work on it. A good place to start is PowerPoint Does Rocket Science. It is an analysis of the problems in communication inherent in chart style, particularly PowerPoint. There are several sites on the internet. Here is one: https://sites.psu.edu/202cjaenicke/2...ience-dont-mix
Bad Data Visualization is a term referring to how poor choice of graphic in a presentation can provide misleading information. These are just a couple of sites:
Considering the other thread on life skills, this is another one that would be useful to include in schools given how much of today's world relies on data visualization. Being able to spot when charts are designed to manipulate people to buy products or vote a certain way is important.
So, I'm wondering is this thread supposed to be a debate about a specific issue related to education?
For me -- the OP -- it was a starting point to discuss almost any aspect related to what fields are currently most active in colleges. It came about because I had read a post about -- and then read an article about -- there would eventually be no historians. But it seems to me that we have a number of posters here, sometimes including myself, that are always great about posting opinions...sometimes as if their opinions are facts. And I just think it's important to differentiate what is factual and what is opinion (or anecdotal). That's not saying that opinions or anecdotes are invalid; they are useful in a discussion. It is also not saying that data is always the answer.
What made me sad about the thread is that I just picked the first couple of articles that I found through goggling that had some data...and those sites were attacked. It was a starting point for a discussion. I didn't say the sites were definitive. I expected others to contribute some sites with data that might be better. As I recall, only one person actually did.
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