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Old 11-26-2017, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Raleigh
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The tentative schedule for widening I-85 and interchange improvements south/west of Charlotte is listed below. Two sources are used for the NCDOT State Transportation Improvement Program (STIP): the 2018-2027 "active STIP" and the November 2017 "current STIP". The best explanation I can give you is that the "active STIP" is what is approved every two years as required by the Feds, but the State Board of Transportation can make amendments to the "current STIP" as needed (funding, scheduling, design issues, etc. as they come along). Note that these dates are not etched in stone, are subject to change, and may not even be correct.
  • I-5000 I-85/US 321. GEOMETRIC SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS TO INTERCHANGE.
    Construction 2017-2018
  • I-5713 SR2200 (COX ROAD) INTERCHANGE. CONSTRUCT INTERCHANGE IMPROVEMENTS. (COORDINATE WITH I-5719)
    Active STIP: Construction 2018
    Current STIP: Construction 2020
  • I-5719 US 321 TO NC 273. WIDEN TO EIGHT LANES.
    Active STIP: Construction 2021-2025
    Current STIP: Construction 2024-Future Years (partially unfunded)
  • I-5895 US 321 (EXIT 17) TO US 74 (EXIT 10). WIDEN ROADWAY.
    Active STIP: Not included
    Current STIP: Construction 2024-Future Years (partially unfunded)
  • I-5985 US 74 TO SOUTH CAROLINA LINE. WIDEN TO SIX LANES.
    Active STIP: Construction 2026-Future Years (partially unfunded)
    Current STIP: Construction 2024-Future Years (partially unfunded)
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Old 11-26-2017, 11:00 AM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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The tentative schedule for widening I-85 and interchange improvements south/west of Charlotte is listed below. Two sources are used for the NCDOT State Transportation Improvement Program (STIP): the 2018-2027 "active STIP" and the November 2017 "current STIP". The best explanation I can give you is that the "active STIP" is what is approved every two years as required by the Feds, but the State Board of Transportation can make amendments to the "current STIP" as needed (funding, scheduling, design issues, etc. as they come along). Note that these dates are not etched in stone, are subject to change, and may not even be correct.
  • I-5000 I-85/US 321. GEOMETRIC SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS TO INTERCHANGE.
    Construction 2017-2018
  • I-5713 SR2200 (COX ROAD) INTERCHANGE. CONSTRUCT INTERCHANGE IMPROVEMENTS. (COORDINATE WITH I-5719)
    Active STIP: Construction 2018
    Current STIP: Construction 2020
  • I-5719 US 321 TO NC 273. WIDEN TO EIGHT LANES.
    Active STIP: Construction 2021-2025
    Current STIP: Construction 2024-Future Years (partially unfunded)
  • I-5895 US 321 (EXIT 17) TO US 74 (EXIT 10). WIDEN ROADWAY.
    Active STIP: Not included
    Current STIP: Construction 2024-Future Years (partially unfunded)
  • I-5985 US 74 TO SOUTH CAROLINA LINE. WIDEN TO SIX LANES.
    Active STIP: Construction 2026-Future Years (partially unfunded)
    Current STIP: Construction 2024-Future Years (partially unfunded)
Thanks.

Apparently they can't read maps. 321 intersects 85 at exit 19. Exit 17 is where the road currently reduces by a lane.
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Old 11-26-2017, 11:41 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Interstate 85 exit 19 is a boondoggle. United States Route 321 needs to be improved to interstate highway standards. The plans I have seen for the upgrade have been dismal. Frontage roads can be an asset here.
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Old 11-26-2017, 12:02 PM
 
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Interstate 85 exit 19 is a boondoggle. United States Route 321 needs to be improved to interstate highway standards. The plans I have seen for the upgrade have been dismal. Frontage roads can be an asset here.
The big problem with 74 & 321 is that both function as local roads in Gastonia. To Gastonia's credit, they haven't created the godforsaken mess with 74 that Shelby created with their original 74 bypass, but it goes through town as a local street & 321 becomes local streets going through residential neighborhoods.
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Old 11-26-2017, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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Thanks.

Apparently they can't read maps. 321 intersects 85 at exit 19. Exit 17 is where the road currently reduces by a lane.
I-85 Exit 17 is the US 321 interchange. Exit 19 is for NC 7.

Traveling northbound, I-85 gains a third lane at Exit 10 (US 74), and a fourth lane between exits 26 and 27.
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Old 11-26-2017, 04:47 PM
 
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I-85 Exit 17 is the US 321 interchange. Exit 19 is for NC 7.

Traveling northbound, I-85 gains a third lane at Exit 10 (US 74), and a fourth lane between exits 26 and 27.
When I go to Hickory, I take 74 to exit 10 & get off I 85 at exit 19, which dumps me onto 321, at a traffic light. At the light you see signs designating which direction you're going to be headed on 321.

When headed southbound on 85, you lose a lane at exit 17, & it stays lost to nearly Spartanburg. There is a short additional lane at exit 10 to allow for people slowing to exit or getting up to speed for people entering. There's also a deceleration lane & acceleration lane for the new truck weighing station, northbound.

They are supposed to widen I 85 from the Mecklenburg line to exit 10 to 8 lanes & from exit 10 to the state line to 6 lines. It should be 8 to the state line, but the topography is funky. Exit 13 takes you to Bessemer City. Exit 17 dumps you onto Bessemer City Road which becomes Garrison when you cross Franklin Blvd.

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Old 11-26-2017, 07:19 PM
 
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When I go to Hickory, I take 74 to exit 10 & get off I 85 at exit 19, which dumps me onto 321, at a traffic light. At the light you see signs designating which direction you're going to be headed on 321.
That's interesting, because I thought Exit 17 on I-85 was for US-321, also known as N. Chester St.?

I-85 going northbound @ Exit 17

Anyways, I always thought it would be nice, but probably quite expensive, to connect the southern freeway end of US-321 just past Grier Beam Blvd. and I-85 which is like a mile and a half away. The only problem is that it is very well built up commercially there, you would probably have to make a new freeway alignment for US-321 to the east over near MLK Way and tie it into I-85 there.
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Old 11-26-2017, 07:34 PM
 
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That's interesting, because I thought Exit 17 on I-85 was for US-321, also known as N. Chester St.?

Anyways, I always thought it would be nice, but probably quite expensive, to connect the southern freeway end of US-321 just past Grier Beam Blvd. and I-85 which is like a mile and a half away. The only problem is that it is very well built up commercially there, you would probably have to make a new freeway alignment for US-321 to the east over near MLK Way and tie it into I-85 there.
321 is York & Chester sts in Gastonia.

When I go to Hickory I get off at exit 19. I've given the directions to multiple people & no one has had a problem. The traffic light at the end of the offramp has signs for 321 to Hickory & 321 to York & Clover. As soon as I take the left-hand turn onto the road it says 321 north. I do not leave that road until I get to NC 10. All that way the road says 321 Hickory. Just call me crazy. I'm pretty sure it's 321.
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Old 11-26-2017, 07:44 PM
 
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321 is York & Chester sts in Gastonia.

When I go to Hickory I get off at exit 19. I've given the directions to multiple people & no one has had a problem. The traffic light at the end of the offramp has signs for 321 to Hickory & 321 to York & Clover. As soon as I take the left-hand turn onto the road it says 321 north. I do not leave that road until I get to NC 10. All that way the road says 321 Hickory. Just call me crazy. I'm pretty sure it's 321.
Does it look like this when you get off of I-85 northbound to go north on US-321, if so, that is Exit 17 not Exit 19, I think you are confusing Exits 17 and 19, Exit 19 has no light just stop signs, plus that is NC-7 not US-321:

Exit 17 @ I-85 Northbound

Google Maps overhead, Exit 17

Google Maps overhead, Exit 19

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Old 11-27-2017, 04:57 AM
 
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Does it look like this when you get off of I-85 northbound to go north on US-321, if so, that is Exit 17 not Exit 19, I think you are confusing Exits 17 and 19, Exit 19 has no light just stop signs, plus that is NC-7 not US-321:

Exit 17 @ I-85 Northbound

Google Maps overhead, Exit 17

Google Maps overhead, Exit 19
I'm using a phone & will check your link later. I pass exit 17 & get off at 19. Exit 19 merges if you get off from 85 southbound. If you get off 85 northbound there is a merge to go south on 321 & a wait at a light to go north.
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