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I'm a Deist who likes SOME of what Jesus Christ said and who enjoys SOME Christian holidays.
I'm also open to the idea that there me be multiple gods who do or do not intervene with us.
That's ok. The multiple non -intervening gods is a possible undisprovable, and so long as no faith without valid evidence is invested in it, there's no problem. Nor with various religious holidays. There is no war on Christmas,other than possibly by some who thibk that Jesus should be the reason for the season, and not promarily a social and family celebration. Finally, some decent sentiments may have beed put into Jesus'mouth by the writers, but these need not be exclusive to the Gospels, even if they are original.
Just sayin' why, while I am fine with your position, it isn't mine.
I'm a Deist who likes SOME of what Jesus Christ said and who enjoys SOME Christian holidays.
I'm also open to the idea that there me be multiple gods who do or do not intervene with us.
I'm an atheist and like some things attributed to Jesus, and I love christmas. The lights, decorations, trees, food, goodwill... Not really into Santa or nativity scenes.
We have a new neighbor who seems perfectly "normal". She's a retired postmaster and friendly, smart, etc, but has a strong mainstream religious belief that really is not based on any proof other than writings in a suspect book, Moderator cut: Politics
I'm at a loss to explain people like her, and they're everywhere you go, it's not just this one person. Can someone explain this to me? How can people who appear normal have beliefs that are, in my opinion, delusional?
Religion requires Faith. Proof is exactly what you don't get.
If a religion were proved, wouldn't we all flock to the single one with the proof? What is left.
Since no religion is proven, you either have Faith or you don't. Believing in nothing takes just as much faith as believing in a given religion.
Believing in nothing means you have to believe in the impossibility of a creator. That can't be proven, so you have to have faith to believe it.
So it comes down to, which faith do you hold, in something or in nothing.
I'm an atheist and like some things attributed to Jesus, and I love christmas. The lights, decorations, trees, food, goodwill... Not really into Santa or nativity scenes.
Very similar here.
Being an atheist doesn't mean one can't find some wisdom in religions.
If you had the time to spare, you could study science until you did understand the evidence
for why the stars are distant suns, or how matter is made up of atoms, or the evolutionary path that led
to human beings. That's one of the great things about science.
But no matter how much study time you put in, you wouldn't find comparable evidence
for the existence of a god... you'd be told you simply have to believe what's written in some ancient book.
Study what?
To "know" scientific evidence, you would have to do first hand research yourself. You would have to do your own experiments into science. If you take the word of scientists, then you simply are placing your "faith" in scientists.
Don't get me wrong, I do believe in science, in scientists, and in most prevailing scientific theories whether it is gravity or quantum mechanics. I have no capacity to do that research myself. All I am saying is, we personally can't have any evidence ourselves beyond our direct physical experiences.
I have never traveled to another planet in our solar system. I am trusting scientists to have told me the truth about other planets in our solar system. What they say strikes me as logical, and I can see bright objects in the sky that look different from what I am told are stars and galaxies that I can see with the naked eye, so I put my faith in scientists regarding the planets of the solar system.
But the fact is, I have never been on one or seen one in a telescope powerful enough to have "first hand evidence".
The fact is, we have to put our faith in scientists that they are telling us the truth. Anything but our own first hand scientific experiments are hearsay. They are NOT evidence we have obtained on our own. It still takes a form of faith to accept them and believe in them, even if they seem very logical and sound.
Religion requires Faith. Proof is exactly what you don't get.
If a religion were proved, wouldn't we all flock to the single one with the proof? What is left.
Since no religion is proven, you either have Faith or you don't. Believing in nothing takes just as much faith as believing in a given religion.
Believing in nothing means you have to believe in the impossibility of a creator. That can't be proven, so you have to have faith to believe it.
So it comes down to, which faith do you hold, in something or in nothing.
I agree with this. The OP obviously wrote his post with the intention of starting an argument, as the normal appearing devout atheist also has beliefs that they absolutely cannot prove, yet this thread presumably bashes solely Christianity.
We see what you're up to , OP...
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