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Old 05-10-2024, 05:10 AM
 
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The thing is that these are all just random suburban business park buildings. So, they serve a generic purpose.

Also, the buildings at Widewaters Parkway/the Excess Building in DeWitt and those in the Franklin Square area of the city are more in line with those Raleigh buildings: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0481...8192?entry=ttu

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0489...2i38?entry=ttu

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0401...2i38?entry=ttu

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0559...8192?entry=ttu (actually walkable to Downtown and has other older architecture buildings that have been brought back to life. That building used to be the former New Process Gear factory building.)

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0567...8192?entry=ttu

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0602...8192?entry=ttu

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0578...8192?entry=ttu

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0558...6656?entry=ttu

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Old 05-10-2024, 06:15 AM
 
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I'd love to see the exact architecture of these townhouses replace a few blocks of city homes in disrepair.

https://www.zillow.com/community/ful...62180096_zpid/

This type of housing architecture is beautiful and would go a long way towards attracting people back to the city neighborhoods.
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Old 05-10-2024, 06:22 AM
 
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I'd love to see the exact architecture of these townhouses replace a few blocks of city homes in disrepair.

https://www.zillow.com/community/ful...62180096_zpid/

This type of housing architecture is beautiful and would go a long way towards attracting people back to the city neighborhoods.
There actually have been some infill with townhouses/housing on the North Side: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0661...8192?entry=ttu

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0660...8192?entry=ttu

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0679...8192?entry=ttu

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0558...8192?entry=ttu

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0567...8192?entry=ttu

Again, more is needed in other parts of the city and some is taking place, but we also have to be careful to make it out to people that the whole city is that way.

I think some would take an area of the city like this: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0389...8192?entry=ttu

or this: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0661...8192?entry=ttu

or this: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0442...8192?entry=ttu

or this: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9915...8192?entry=ttu

or this: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0785...8192?entry=ttu

All are walkable to parks, schools and businesses as well. There are other areas as well.

Also, with that GA listing, you are looking at an exurb of Atlanta versus an older developed mid sized center city. So, there are different dynamics involved.

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Old 05-10-2024, 08:52 AM
 
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Some of those infill development look nice.

Here are some good looking condos and apartments in Denver that are good examples of what I'd like to see done in Syracuse to make it more attractive

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/9...63786547_zpid/

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1...68050933_zpid/

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/8...47763929_zpid/
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Old 05-10-2024, 09:11 AM
 
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https://www.syracuse.com/news/2024/0...ghborhood.html

I'm glad the city rejected it because it is an ugly design.

If I had a few billion dollars I'd propose dozens of development projects all at once of beautiful apartments, condos and townhomes and make half of them affordable.

I can see the city not approving all my planned development projects but I doubt the city would reject all of them. So at least I'd see something that would beatify the city get built.
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Old 05-10-2024, 09:14 AM
 
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Some of those infill development look nice.

Here are some good looking condos and apartments in Denver that are good examples of what I'd like to see done in Syracuse to make it more attractive

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/9...63786547_zpid/

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1...68050933_zpid/

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/8...47763929_zpid/
A couple of these are in Downtown Denver and the city already has similar types of residential in Downtown. So, that market demand has been met and is still pretty high.

As for the rejection of that project, the key was the fact that it would be strictly lower income residential in an area that has a glut of that type of housing. It is to the point that a public official mentioned how the South Side has carried the brunt of such housing and it played a part as to why it was rejected. The city is looking to create more mixed income housing developments and I think it can work due to people that want to downsize or looking to live in the city in a walkable environment. Here is the response from the official that I am referring to: https://www.instagram.com/p/C6brbFZrFXo/ So, there are other things that some in the city is considering in terms of housing, with having more mixed income development.
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Old 05-17-2024, 04:19 AM
 
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Imagine the Sydney Opera House as a warehouse without the iconic architecture.

Syracuse missed out on creating an iconic tourist attraction in the inner harbor by going down the cheap functional mediocre designed aquarium route.
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Old 05-17-2024, 05:53 AM
 
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Imagine the Sydney Opera House as a warehouse without the iconic architecture.

Syracuse missed out on creating an iconic tourist attraction in the inner harbor by going down the cheap functional mediocre designed aquarium route.
Architecture is nice, but the fact that is actually going to happen, is a good thing. Plus, the Inner Harbor area has room for more development.
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Old 05-25-2024, 01:11 PM
 
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Architecture from 100 years ago when cool, trendy, talented people flocked to Syracuse is basically the only reason visitors respect and like downtown Syracuse....for example

Niagara Mohawk building

Historic Buildings in Clinton Square

SA&K building

City Hall

Courthouse

Armory Square historic buildings

Architecture isn't just nice to have, if your city doesn't have year around sunny skies, warm weather, mountians or beaches it is the only way to attract talented people to live in your city.

People don't want to live a drab, dull, depressing built environment full of soviet style architecture and apartments or offices that look like warehouses.
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Old 05-25-2024, 01:47 PM
 
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Architecture from 100 years ago when cool, trendy, talented people flocked to Syracuse is basically the only reason visitors respect and like downtown Syracuse....for example

Niagara Mohawk building

Historic Buildings in Clinton Square

SA&K building

City Hall

Courthouse

Armory Square historic buildings

Architecture isn't just nice to have, if your city doesn't have year around sunny skies, warm weather, mountians or beaches it is the only way to attract talented people to live in your city.

People don't want to live a drab, dull, depressing built environment full of soviet style architecture and apartments or offices that look like warehouses.
Again, architecture wasn’t what attracted people to Syracuse. Jobs, employment and a desire for a better life did and to a degree, still does. That is the key, not having subjectively cool architecture.

Plus, that is a false narrative about architecture in Syracuse.
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