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Old 04-20-2024, 11:43 AM
 
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If it's drug related, then they sure didn't train her well. You know when you are in the drug trade, you have to worry about the police and the rivals.

I mean if she had money and drugs on her, why did they killed her like that? assuming they taken all the cash and drugs from her? The gunmen was in a mask, so she wouldn't be able to positively identify him anyways.

But if someone just wanted her dead, that's a weird way to get the JOB done, in broad day light in the open in a busy street, as you saw, it was capture on video.

Anyways, that person that capture video was called a hero. No, he would have been a real hero had he called the police and follow the car and tell the police where he was following the car.

There were two witnesses in the vehicle. One was filming the incident and the second was on the phone with 911 and followed instructions from 911. Their filming the incident was valuable in helping to solve the case and if they had followed when the two vehicles made a U-turn at that intersection they most likely would have been killed as well.
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Old 04-20-2024, 12:04 PM
 
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There were two witnesses in the vehicle. One was filming the incident and the second was on the phone with 911 and followed instructions from 911. Their filming the incident was valuable in helping to solve the case and if they had followed when the two vehicles made a U-turn at that intersection they most likely would have been killed as well.
Obviously, I didn't know that. But not sure the witnesses would have been killed. I doubt the the gunman inside the car would be paying attention to the driver and some random car behind him at the same time.

But when someone it's taken by gun point like that, most of the time it's not car jacking, someone is going to be kidnapped or killed. Had the witness followed, and police show up on time, the lady might still be alive.
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Old 04-20-2024, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Flawduh
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Obviously, I didn't know that. But not sure the witnesses would have been killed. I doubt the the gunman inside the car would be paying attention to the driver and some random car behind him at the same time.

But when someone it's taken by gun point like that, most of the time it's not car jacking, someone is going to be kidnapped or killed. Had the witness followed, and police show up on time, the lady might still be alive.
No, that would be a foolish thing to do. No way would I have followed either in this case.
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Old 04-20-2024, 02:33 PM
 
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Just because she didn't act like a professional doesn't mean she was not in the drug trade. Tons of people get involved in the drug trade solely because they are promised a lot of money and have more greed than sense. There's no training for low level couriers except some basic instructions and promises of 'if you just do what we tell you do, it'll be fine". They're just people who want/need money and are willing to perform criminal tasks for it, hardly a scarce resource in many places.
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Old 04-20-2024, 05:00 PM
 
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No, that would be a foolish thing to do. No way would I have followed either in this case.
I wouldn't follow directly, but close enough, how would the gunman know he's being follow?
He has to keep an eye on the driver.

and even if did notice you follow, what would he do? he wasn't going to stop and get out and shoot you, cause the driver would get away.
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Old 04-20-2024, 05:06 PM
 
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Just because she didn't act like a professional doesn't mean she was not in the drug trade. Tons of people get involved in the drug trade solely because they are promised a lot of money and have more greed than sense. There's no training for low level couriers except some basic instructions and promises of 'if you just do what we tell you do, it'll be fine". They're just people who want/need money and are willing to perform criminal tasks for it, hardly a scarce resource in many places.
But the people that recruited her would have taught her about the basics to the trade. They are not only doing her a favor, they would be protecting their drugs and money too.

Even then, she was clueless, she had an easy get away, she was stop at the line, no one in front of her, I would have gas it. From the video, she even open the door for him.
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Old 04-20-2024, 06:14 PM
 
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I wouldn't follow directly, but close enough, how would the gunman know he's being follow?
He has to keep an eye on the driver.

and even if did notice you follow, what would he do? he wasn't going to stop and get out and shoot you, cause the driver would get away.


The victim & gunman as well as the green Acura did a U turn at an intersection where U turns are illegal. You are saying the witness could have done that same illegal U turn after them without drawing attention and then an immediate second U turn that the vehicles did again without drawing attention?

That is a terrible idea. BTW, the tow truck driver who had towed this green Acura in March was executed the day before this carjacking and the green Acura was linked to the execution site as well as the same spent rounds.
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Old 04-20-2024, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Flawduh
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I wouldn't follow directly, but close enough, how would the gunman know he's being follow?
He has to keep an eye on the driver.

and even if did notice you follow, what would he do? he wasn't going to stop and get out and shoot you, cause the driver would get away.
Hell to the no. Sorry but… no.
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Old 04-20-2024, 09:23 PM
 
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The victim & gunman as well as the green Acura did a U turn at an intersection where U turns are illegal. You are saying the witness could have done that same illegal U turn after them without drawing attention and then an immediate second U turn that the vehicles did again without drawing attention?

That is a terrible idea. BTW, the tow truck driver who had towed this green Acura in March was executed the day before this carjacking and the green Acura was linked to the execution site as well as the same spent rounds.
I wouldn't follow directly, as I said, close enough. It could be just enough time before the witnesses stop following and police gets to the vicinity and pick up from there.

I don't believe the tow truck driver got killed because he towed their car. Really, you are going to kill someone over a tow vehicle? There was be more to why the tow truck driver got killed like that
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Old 04-20-2024, 09:33 PM
 
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The victim & gunman as well as the green Acura did a U turn at an intersection where U turns are illegal. You are saying the witness could have done that same illegal U turn after them without drawing attention and then an immediate second U turn that the vehicles did again without drawing attention?

That is a terrible idea. BTW, the tow truck driver who had towed this green Acura in March was executed the day before this carjacking and the green Acura was linked to the execution site as well as the same spent rounds.
I wouldn't follow directly, as I said, close enough. It could be just enough time before the witnesses stop following and police gets to the vicinity and pick up from there.

I don't believe the tow truck driver got killed because he towed their car. Really, you are going to kill someone over a tow vehicle? There was be more to why the tow truck driver got killed like that
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