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Old 04-19-2024, 01:03 PM
 
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LOL that's not going to happen. When the MWC joins with WSU and OSU they become, by far, the best G5 conference and their current TV deal expires 2026 (Mostly CBS then ESPN). FCS schools add nothing.
Considering The PAC 12 schools left for the Big Ten (FOX) and the Big 12 (FOX ESPN mix) the NPAC12 will likely be courted by ESPN as a Pacific/Mountain time zone offering.
Weirdly enough it's not entirely all about padding the pockets of whoever the networks choose in collegiate sports, nor all about football either. Already successful FCS schools as already proven don't remain FCS for long if not held down by the status quo feasting at the trough of media cash. North Dakota State is probably the leading example and once in would expect a few more similar FCS standouts to join. The MW makes the most sense geographically although Conference USA might consider a divisional split to accommodate.
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Old 04-20-2024, 07:22 AM
 
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Weirdly enough it's not entirely all about padding the pockets of whoever the networks choose in collegiate sports, nor all about football either. Already successful FCS schools as already proven don't remain FCS for long if not held down by the status quo feasting at the trough of media cash. North Dakota State is probably the leading example and once in would expect a few more similar FCS standouts to join. The MW makes the most sense geographically although Conference USA might consider a divisional split to accommodate.
The networks work hand in hand with the conferences and football drives the bus. If NDSU wants to be in a FBS conference they need to move up to FBS. Nobody in the Missouri Valley Football Conference is getting an invite to the MWC/NPAC12 conference.
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Old 04-22-2024, 09:33 AM
 
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This will only happen if it generates even more media money for the schools (or saves significant costs). Otherwise there's no incentive to be logical about it.
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Old 04-23-2024, 06:21 AM
 
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This will only happen if it generates even more media money for the schools (or saves significant costs). Otherwise there's no incentive to be logical about it.
It would require people who are currently in power relinquishing it. Not gonna happen!
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Old 04-23-2024, 05:03 PM
 
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The networks work hand in hand with the conferences and football drives the bus. If NDSU wants to be in a FBS conference they need to move up to FBS. Nobody in the Missouri Valley Football Conference is getting an invite to the MWC/NPAC12 conference.
NDSU wants to move up much like other school such as Appalachian State, Liberty, James Madison, UT-San Antonio and others have done recently. Their geographic restriction in the Plains/North Central area limits the options like the many who jumped into conferences like the Sunbelt or Atlantic Sun. The MWC makes the most sense but with the success of recent FCS schools in FBS, they're probably terrified of the competition on the field and in recruitment.
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Old 04-24-2024, 06:26 AM
 
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NDSU wants to move up much like other school such as Appalachian State, Liberty, James Madison, UT-San Antonio and others have done recently. Their geographic restriction in the Plains/North Central area limits the options like the many who jumped into conferences like the Sunbelt or Atlantic Sun. The MWC makes the most sense but with the success of recent FCS schools in FBS, they're probably terrified of the competition on the field and in recruitment.
I don't know why you are so strangely fixated on NDSU? It's weird. Your opinion that SDSU, or WSU, or, Nevada is terrified of NDSU is phcuking weird

And no the MWC makes no sense. If big bad NDSU wants to be a big boy why don't they make the leap to FBS?
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Old 04-24-2024, 09:13 AM
 
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I don't know why you are so strangely fixated on NDSU? It's weird. Your opinion that SDSU, or WSU, or, Nevada is terrified of NDSU is phcuking weird

And no the MWC makes no sense. If big bad NDSU wants to be a big boy why don't they make the leap to FBS?
I'm not fixated, they're an example of a very successful FCS program the FBS programs are scared of and won't schedule. You're the weird one who can't seem to grasp the concept of geography and scheduling conducted by FBS programs to maintain the status quo given a loss to an FCS school wrecks any talk of a FBS playoff berth. I mean for example go ahead and ask the AD at the University of Michigan why they won't schedule Appalachian State in football any longer, or other similar FCS programs.
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Old 04-24-2024, 09:51 AM
 
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I'm not fixated, they're an example of a very successful FCS program the FBS programs are scared of and won't schedule. You're the weird one who can't seem to grasp the concept of geography and scheduling conducted by FBS programs to maintain the status quo given a loss to an FCS school wrecks any talk of a FBS playoff berth. I mean for example go ahead and ask the AD at the University of Michigan why they won't schedule Appalachian State in football any longer, or other similar FCS programs.
There's usually over 100 games between FCS and FBS any given season. FBS teams are not scared to schedule them. Again if they want to play FBS teams every week make the leap to FBS. There was like 130 games between FCS and FBS last year
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https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/a...scheduled-2023

FCS won 4 of them lol. That's about .03%

ept. 9 Southern Illinois 14-11 Northern Illinois
Sept. 9 Fordham 40-37 Buffalo
Sept. 9 Idaho 33-6 Nevada
Sept. 16 Sacramento State 30-23 Stanford
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Old 04-24-2024, 12:13 PM
 
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There's usually over 100 games between FCS and FBS any given season. FBS teams are not scared to schedule them. Again if they want to play FBS teams every week make the leap to FBS. There was like 130 games between FCS and FBS last year
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https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/a...scheduled-2023

FCS won 4 of them lol. That's about .03%

ept. 9 Southern Illinois 14-11 Northern Illinois
Sept. 9 Fordham 40-37 Buffalo
Sept. 9 Idaho 33-6 Nevada
Sept. 16 Sacramento State 30-23 Stanford
There are 129 FCS programs, so that's a great job of cherry-picking among FBS programs. How many FBS programs played ranked FCS teams in 2023? Without the research effort I would guess less than five. It's well documented that schools like NDSU, Montana, Appalachian State, Troy and Liberty found it increasingly difficult to get FBS scheduling since most FBS schools seem obsessed with scheduling perennial FCS doormats to play and beat up 73-0 at homecoming to make everyone swoon and say how wonderful they are. There's also to answer your uninformed suggestion of simply leaping to FBS. It has to be approved by the NCAA and a prospective conference, which goes back to winning percentages and regional recruitment efforts of existing FBS programs. It all boils down besides money as to why FBS is the only football division out of five that doesn't settle a national championship via eligibility of all conference champions and/or qualified at-large bids. A level playing field and repetition of competition improves the performance of all participants. NCAA Basketball is a shining example of that.
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Old 04-24-2024, 01:35 PM
 
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There are 129 FCS programs, so that's a great job of cherry-picking among FBS programs. How many FBS programs played ranked FCS teams in 2023? Without the research effort I would guess less than five. It's well documented that schools like NDSU, Montana, Appalachian State, Troy and Liberty found it increasingly difficult to get FBS scheduling since most FBS schools seem obsessed with scheduling perennial FCS doormats to play and beat up 73-0 at homecoming to make everyone swoon and say how wonderful they are. There's also to answer your uninformed suggestion of simply leaping to FBS. It has to be approved by the NCAA and a prospective conference, which goes back to winning percentages and regional recruitment efforts of existing FBS programs. It all boils down besides money as to why FBS is the only football division out of five that doesn't settle a national championship via eligibility of all conference champions and/or qualified at-large bids. A level playing field and repetition of competition improves the performance of all participants. NCAA Basketball is a shining example of that.
LOL Troy, Liberty and App State are all FBS not FCS. If NDSU doesn't have the courage to move up to FBS that's on them. Liberty even went to NY6 bowl last year and got murdered by Oregon 45-6. NDSU seems scared that they might have a losing record playing FBS.
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