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Old 03-23-2023, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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I have a neice that is Stage 4 Colon Cancer diagnosed Sep 2021. She is in her 40's. She immediately had Colon surgery at that time, and has been on Chemo ever since. She goes in for Chemo treatments and then wears a port, for more Chemo at home in between her treatments. Her cancer had spread beyond the Colon at diagnosis. She is now really struggling with it and has had to go on a regiment of strong pain killers, I don't believe she was on them or it was limited use until now. She had to leave her job immediately at diagnosis, as she just wasn't able to work anymore. The Original Chemo Schedule didn't work enough, and she had to go on what they call Aggressive Chemo. It is very powerful but really its only giving her some more time, and she is well aware of that. I honestly don't think she will be able to tolerate this high level of treatment much longer, she is now confined to home all the time as she is completely exhausted and sedated.

Cancer is very cruel and as far as I'm concerned, the Medical World should be further advanced on curing it by now. Or at least go into remission more than it does now. More and more young people do seem to be dealing with this miserable cancer, but 29 is way to young to be dealing with it.
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Old 03-23-2023, 10:15 PM
 
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Easy aw nuts not to me. That crud I had to drink is about 2 gallons in size. I threw it up. Plus I was starving when I went to bed. The first time I got one I did both at the same time Endoscopy and Colonoscopy and let me tell you the gas pains were horrible. I was lucky I had a ride from a relative to get there and home.

The next one that taxi driver nearly killed me. He flug me all over the back seat that was absolutely filthy. There wasn't a seat belt and he drove like a maniac from NYC. I wanted to choke him when I finally got home.

Now I really don't want to go through all that again. So I though I could get out of it not having a ride and the crud (formaldehyde I call it, barf).

I am leery of taking a uber since the last time I used Uber to get home from the hospital the guy had no clue what the 4 digit pin was for and the idiot was taking me to the wrong address. I insisted he show me his phone to be sure I was right and he wasn't just driving a different route. Sure enough after arguing with that idiot I showed him he had the wrong address.

So it's either don't go or wrestle with the Uber driver who has no clue what he is doing, pay for a deadly taxi driver in a filthy taxi or don't get it done.

Then my Doctor comes up with after my last attempt was well maybe my town or the hospital or somewhere will have a service I could pay for pick up and drive home. The last place didn't have that. I figured I would get out of it this way. Nope My Doctor said he knows a service a NY or Bayonne Hospital has. Aw crap so I used the other excuse about the formaldehyde drink. Come to find my new pharmacy has this stuff with two small bottles to drink and then 5 cups of water. It's along process I dread. It takes so long to drink and get it all out and I drink to fast which probably doesn't help. Plus I no longer trust my hospital anymore but when in an emergency I don't have any other choice because it is the only one in my area.

I'm going to skip another year.
What puts many off colonoscopy is the prep, then the other hammer falls when place where procedure is being done often won't allow person to leave afterwards without an escort who is supposed to remain with person for 24 hours or so.
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Old 03-23-2023, 10:20 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Poor guy, but at least it was finally properly diagnosed and dealt with so he stands pretty good chance of survival.

Moral of story is not to ignore colon cancer symptoms even when very young thinking it couldn't happen.


https://news.yahoo.com/man-diagnosed...231851391.html


Unfortunately, while he appears to have a good outcome, that could change within the next year if they missed some like they did to a woman I know who's husband also had "no evidence of cancer" until it blew up in his face. I don't think it was a full year, six to nine months. He ended up dying.

He was treated locally. I tried to talk the wife into taking him into Philly when he was first diagnosed which isn't far, they wanted to stay local for some reason.


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Easy aw nuts not to me. That crud I had to drink is about 2 gallons in size. I threw it up. Plus I was starving when I went to bed. The first time I got one I did both at the same time Endoscopy and Colonoscopy and let me tell you the gas pains were horrible. I was lucky I had a ride from a relative to get there and home.

The next one that taxi driver nearly killed me. He flug me all over the back seat that was absolutely filthy. There wasn't a seat belt and he drove like a maniac from NYC. I wanted to choke him when I finally got home.

Now I really don't want to go through all that again. So I though I could get out of it not having a ride and the crud (formaldehyde I call it, barf).

I am leery of taking a uber since the last time I used Uber to get home from the hospital the guy had no clue what the 4 digit pin was for and the idiot was taking me to the wrong address. I insisted he show me his phone to be sure I was right and he wasn't just driving a different route. Sure enough after arguing with that idiot I showed him he had the wrong address.

So it's either don't go or wrestle with the Uber driver who has no clue what he is doing, pay for a deadly taxi driver in a filthy taxi or don't get it done.

Then my Doctor comes up with after my last attempt was well maybe my town or the hospital or somewhere will have a service I could pay for pick up and drive home. The last place didn't have that. I figured I would get out of it this way. Nope My Doctor said he knows a service a NY or Bayonne Hospital has. Aw crap so I used the other excuse about the formaldehyde drink. Come to find my new pharmacy has this stuff with two small bottles to drink and then 5 cups of water. It's along process I dread. It takes so long to drink and get it all out and I drink to fast which probably doesn't help. Plus I no longer trust my hospital anymore but when in an emergency I don't have any other choice because it is the only one in my area.

I'm going to skip another year.


I had a colonoscopy back in 2005 where the prep was miserable. I was then sick for a few weeks as my body tried to adjust. I swore I'd never get another.

I had to get one in August 2021, my cologuard test was positive for blood. I was not a happy camper.

Thankfully they have new prep now where you drink miralax plus take a few dulcolax pills to clean out.

I decided I'd do my own version of cleaning out, I don't do well with the shock to my system. I started the miralax a few weeks before just to see how my body would react. My grandson takes it every now and then, it could take days to work on him, same with me. The dulcolax pills work pretty good.

I also had an upper endoscopy, I don't remember having bad gas.
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Old 03-24-2023, 05:01 AM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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I also had an upper endoscopy, I don't remember having bad gas.
A large GI group to whom I referred pts has a free standing endoscopy center where they did dozens of scopes every day. The recovery area had about a dozen spaces separated by those curtains on tracks. Walking thru there in the middle of the day, it sounded like the bombardment of Ft Sumter and all those curtains where blowng back and forth like New Orleans during Katrina.

If you don't remember, it was the Versed. Good stuff. Far out, Man.
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Old 03-24-2023, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Mayberry
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I heard if you're a first generation relative of someone who had polyps, that person should start getting theirs, then. I was and had a colonoscopy in my 40's, in 2017 I was diagnosed with an IBD, had a colonoscopy in Feb. and had 1 polyp, non-cancerous. Prep was miralax and gatorade and dulcolax. After procedure I had terrible pain, for 2 days, gas pains, also had diarrhea same day as colonoscopy, how does that happen? I will have next one in 5 years, I'm 70.
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Old 03-24-2023, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Juneau, AK + Puna, HI
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I heard if you're a first generation relative of someone who had polyps, that person should start getting theirs, then...
Genetic predisposition is something to consider.

The NYT had a story about the growing trend of younger people developing this cancer just 4 days ago.

Here's some of it:

"..Why are cases rising among younger people?
Researchers don’t know for sure and are scrambling to answer this question, Dr. Itzkowitz said, but some shifts in risk factors have offered clues.

Climbing rates of obesity in children and adults may be one contributing factor, Dr. Itzkowitz said, with one major study published in 2022 concluding that obesity at age 20 or 30 can more than double your risk of early-onset colorectal cancer.

Binge drinking — typically defined as five or more drinks for men in about two hours, and four or more for women — has also been suggested as a possible driver. The practice has steadily been increasing among adults 30 and under for decades.


But there is likely far more to the story than this, Dr. Baxter said. Researchers still don’t understand how childhood risk factors — such as having been born via cesarean section, having used antibiotics or having certain environmental exposures — may influence the risk of early-onset colorectal cancer, or what role the microbiome may play.

Sugary beverage consumption, for instance, which rose among teenagers in the 1980s and 1990s, has been linked with an increased risk of early occurrences of the condition. But it is unclear if that is because of the sugary beverages themselves, or related factors such as diabetes or any changes the sugary beverages may have made to the bacteria in our guts.

To understand why colorectal cancer rates are rising among younger people and to prevent that trend from continuing, Dr. Baxter said, we must answer these types of questions..."

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/20/w...9d7a3ca4f7fe3f
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Old 03-24-2023, 10:26 AM
 
Location: NJ
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A large GI group to whom I referred pts has a free standing endoscopy center where they did dozens of scopes every day. The recovery area had about a dozen spaces separated by those curtains on tracks. Walking thru there in the middle of the day, it sounded like the bombardment of Ft Sumter and all those curtains where blowng back and forth like New Orleans during Katrina.

If you don't remember, it was the Versed. Good stuff. Far out, Man.


LMAO

Does your GI group get people in quick? It took 3 months to see my GI doctor, then another 6 weeks before it was done.
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Old 03-24-2023, 11:03 AM
 
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What puts many off colonoscopy is the prep, then the other hammer falls when place where procedure is being done often won't allow person to leave afterwards without an escort who is supposed to remain with person for 24 hours or so.
You don't want to drive afterwards unless you are awake for the procedure and even then your stomach is in pain until you pass all the gas. The stuff they give you really puts you for a loop for a few hours. As far as someone staying with you for 24 hours, that might be a little dramatic. Just sleep it off.

The prep is bad but in all honesty not as bad as people make it out to be. I actually like the after of doing it. You feel better with clean pipes so to speak. The worst part to me is the waiting for the doctor to get to you which is why I like choosing first thing in the morning.

Find a neighbor to drive you if you have no one, honestly they don't need to stay afterwards but should call you later in the day to be sure you are ok. They don't even have to stay at the facility, they will call you when they need to return. My husband has done this for a friend.
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Old 03-24-2023, 11:07 AM
 
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LMAO

Does your GI group get people in quick? It took 3 months to see my GI doctor, then another 6 weeks before it was done.
Not here in Florida. My doctor's office called it in and the GI practice called me the same day to schedule. Got in to see the doctor in a couple of weeks (that was me not them) and then in 4 weeks the procedure was done. Recently the same thing although both my doctor and I got confused on when it was done. My husband went to another GI practice and same thing. Very quickly done.
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Old 03-24-2023, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Austin
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in the 90s, a good friend's 16 year old son died of colon cancer. he had symptoms for 2 years and none of his doctors ever suggested a cat scan or colonoscopy until it was too late. the cancer had progressed to stage iv. he had every symptom of colon cancer. every single one.
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