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Old 04-30-2010, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Metromess
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I think we need to specify which band we're discussing in each post. AM broadcast band radio (530-1700 kHz) travels much farther at night than in the daytime, while FM broadcast band (88-108 MHz) is a completely different animal, not 'skipping' like AM does.
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Old 04-30-2010, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Duluth, Minnesota, USA
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I think we need to specify which band we're discussing in each post. AM broadcast band radio (530-1700 kHz) travels much farther at night than in the daytime, while FM broadcast band (88-108 MHz) is a completely different animal, not 'skipping' like AM does.
Not so quickly. FM does "skip", just not regularly. However, there are many days in June and July when I can hear FM radio stations 700 to 1,500 miles away. Usually, there in for just a few minutes, but that's often enough to get an ID and "log" them.
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Old 04-30-2010, 10:58 PM
 
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Really? I didn't realize that. If you're a TV DXer, I suppose you have directional antennas which will work well for that. I know it happens occasionally on the 2-meter ham band, so it stands to reason.

Are most of the digital TV stations on UHF? I've heard that said, but don't know if it is true.
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Old 05-01-2010, 01:35 AM
 
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On AM back in 1996 on a mountain top in Virginia I was able to get both 700 WLW and then 1530 WSAI out of Cincinatti very very clear. Not a biggie at night but this was at 1pm on a Sunday afternoon.

In 1991 on a summer afternoon just before a thunderstorm ( again in Virginia..along I-81 this time around ) I was able to pick up on my car radio several Houston FM stations ( one was Mix 96.5 ).

I guess the days of FM skips is something that the radio stations ( or at least some them ) either don't know about or even considers the idea BS. On another site last year I can recall reading a post by someone in Kansas City who was able to get for an hour "HOT 107.1" out of Denver. In his post he claimed that he had contacted HOT by mail including a tape he had made of that station. Anyway HOT 107.1 had sent him a reply back calling him a "Liar" that there is no way their station can be picked up in Kansas City. Oh according to the post the letter ended with HOT saying "..now go back and take your meds !!"
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Old 05-01-2010, 01:39 PM
 
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Apparently 'HOT 107.1' didn't know what they were capable of. It doesn't happen as a rule, but it happens. It's amazing that they called the guy a liar, though. That's not so hot.

That was cool that you were able to get the Cincinnati AM stations in the daytime. (I wish I could get WKRP in Cincinnati!)
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Old 05-02-2010, 08:34 PM
 
Location: NC
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B93.7 by any chance? I also pick up Magic 98.9 pretty good

I'm also in Charlotte and I've picked up Coast 97.3 in Wilmington a couple of times despite 97.3 WKBC in nearby Statesville

Mix 101.5 from Raleigh

While in Myrtle Beach a few years ago I sat on the balcony of the hotel I was at and with a radio I was able to pick up a station from Jacksonville, Florida, but for the life of me I can't remember what station it was, they were at the time playing Phil Collins "Against All Odds" so I think it was an Adult Contemporary Station.

Yeah, that's it, 93.7! It comes in pretty much all times of the day and I like that genre of music, so I stationed it. That's amazing you picked up a Wilmington station from so far away. I guess I could turn on my radio about now and see what I can pick up. It's nice to hear a different station from a different area, even though the music's pretty much the same.
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Old 05-02-2010, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Duluth, Minnesota, USA
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Really? I didn't realize that. If you're a TV DXer, I suppose you have directional antennas which will work well for that. I know it happens occasionally on the 2-meter ham band, so it stands to reason.

Are most of the digital TV stations on UHF? I've heard that said, but don't know if it is true.
1. It does. Low VHF (channels 2-6) shares similar propagation characteristics to 6 meters (lots of E-Skip); high VHF (channels 7-13) with 2 meters (tropo and very occasional Es); UHF (channels 14 on up) with 70 cm (lots of tropo ducting).

2. Most of them are either on UHF or the VHF high-band (channels 7-13). During the transition most were on UHF, but since some have returned to their original analog channel allotments. For example, here in Duluth 8 and 10, during the transition period, broadcasted their DTV signal on 38 and 43; now 38 and 43 are clear, and they broadcast digitally on 8 and 10. But 3 and 6, low-band stations, chose to remain on their transition DTV channels of 19 and 33, even though they both still call themselves "3" and "6". Few stations are broadcasting digitally on VHF low band, but U.S. DX'ers still can DX Canadian and Mexican (and if you live in Florida or Texas, Central America) stations.
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Old 05-02-2010, 10:32 PM
 
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Very good exposition! Thanks.

Someone has petitioned the FCC for a 70 MHz ham band, since there aren't many low-band VHF TV stations left and there are several other countries which have a 70-MHz ("4 meter") amateur band. I don't think the FCC will be very interested in the idea.
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Old 05-02-2010, 10:37 PM
 
Location: US Empire, Pac NW
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On a cloudy day in Seattle I picked up an AM station from Newport News, VA.
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Old 05-03-2010, 02:05 PM
 
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Clouds don't affect it. I presume that was after sunset? In any case, a good catch.
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