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Old 10-26-2022, 10:51 PM
 
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Would YOU have the money to "check out other places"?? We sure don't!

It's like I said in another reply, City-Data is full of folks complaining about where they live or where they ended up moving to.

Actually, the complaining I was doing, which is very verifiable among other seniors living in Loveland, is how fast-paced the city is getting. Apparently the word has gotten out about how small the P.D. is here and that many young people can get away with a lot of things.

When winter really hits Loveland, and the area, there will be those that will complain, but instead of selling and moving, they stay and continue to complain about how cold it is and the snow.

No matter what anyone here thinks, we see a population explosion about to happen and that's already being talked about among many seniors. I only asked about it.

And, just how many members of this entire forum have made mistakes in where they have moved to??? Guess it's not common, or good, for people to make mistakes, even if they are repeated.
You are one of exactly two posters on C-D who repeatedly complain about the same things over and over again and keep moving around thinking there is a perfect place. And that other guy left C-D a long time ago.

You’re one of those who, “instead of selling and moving, they stay and continue to complain about how cold it is and the snow,” as you put it right in your last post above.

IOW, you are exactly one of the many kinds of people you complain about.

Bye. Don’t let the door hit you in the butt when you go.

 
Old 10-26-2022, 11:07 PM
 
Location: Eastern Colorado
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Originally Posted by BabyBoomers2 View Post
Would YOU have the money to "check out other places"?? We sure don't!

It's like I said in another reply, City-Data is full of folks complaining about where they live or where they ended up moving to.

Actually, the complaining I was doing, which is very verifiable among other seniors living in Loveland, is how fast-paced the city is getting. Apparently the word has gotten out about how small the P.D. is here and that many young people can get away with a lot of things.

When winter really hits Loveland, and the area, there will be those that will complain, but instead of selling and moving, they stay and continue to complain about how cold it is and the snow.

No matter what anyone here thinks, we see a population explosion about to happen and that's already being talked about among many seniors. I only asked about it.

And, just how many members of this entire forum have made mistakes in where they have moved to??? Guess it's not common, or good, for people to make mistakes, even if they are repeated.

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And, this is why my wife keeps telling me "I don't want any part of a forum where members don't understand and/or don't want to understand."

With the right replies, City-Data can be a very informative forum.
Don't understand or don't tell you want you want to hear?

I am not usually one to gloat, but I flat out warned you what Loveland is like, your biggest complaints in this thread I clearly laid out for you prior to you moving here and you said I had no idea what I was talking about.

I have drug dozens of people to the Greeley Stampede over the years, and for many of them it was their 1st time at a stock show/rodeo.

Most of Generation X, the millennials, and Generation Y are 2 or more generations from the farm, I was lucky my grandparents and other family members held theirs until I was in my late teens, but most of the people I grew up with had never spent a day on a farm and I grew up in Weld County in the 80s and 90s.

The only place you are going to find more than a handful of people who are rodeo fans that are younger than you is in very rural areas, where they still grow up around animals and their families have something to do with farms/ranching.

My wife's cousins are from Omaha and they have never even been to a rodeo. My cousins live in Wyoming and they are not rodeo fans despite owning a small ranch. I have friends that live in Cheyenne and them and their neighbors hate frontier days as it screws up their whole city.

You are not going ot find a big fan base in Las Vegas or any other major city, hell you could try Dallas and would still struggle to find a big fan base, you have to go to very rural areas. Maybe Sterling, Burlington, or Lamar may work for you, but if you need a medical specialist than you are going to have to commute.
 
Old 10-27-2022, 12:19 AM
 
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You are one of exactly two posters on C-D who repeatedly complain about the same things over and over again and keep moving around thinking there is a perfect place. And that other guy left C-D a long time ago.

You’re one of those who, “instead of selling and moving, they stay and continue to complain about how cold it is and the snow,” as you put it right in your last post above.

IOW, you are exactly one of the many kinds of people you complain about.

Bye. Don’t let the door hit you in the butt when you go.
I knew he was a mess when he started complaining about how an Amazon warehouse would bring traffic and crime so he needed to move out and thought Las Vegas was a good choice. That's about as ridiculous an idea as one could make moving to a place where development is a way of life. Then he made it more ridiculous saying he knows Las Vegas and is comfortable with its growth, as if all the people who live there dont know what they are talking about. He's not really going to leave a place and will have 100 excuses why he didn't, maybe including the real one, that he will be miserable wherever he goes.
 
Old 10-27-2022, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Niceville, FL
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We’re currently in the research phase for getting out of Florida in a few years and for Colorado, Loveland keeps coming up because we don’t want Colorado Springs for assorted reasons and it seems like you get a lot more for your money in the $400-$600K single family home budget than you do closer to Denver or Ft. Collins proper while at the same time being close to a good number of amenities.

Our plan would be to be cash buyers somewhere; love the freedom of not having a mortgage anymore.
 
Old 10-27-2022, 08:10 AM
 
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I knew he was a mess when he started complaining about how an Amazon warehouse would bring traffic and crime so he needed to move out and thought Las Vegas was a good choice. That's about as ridiculous an idea as one could make moving to a place where development is a way of life. Then he made it more ridiculous saying he knows Las Vegas and is comfortable with its growth, as if all the people who live there dont know what they are talking about. He's not really going to leave a place and will have 100 excuses why he didn't, maybe including the real one, that he will be miserable wherever he goes.
I agree that he won't leave Loveland. He has "issues" with traffic there as an older, slower driver yet thinks he can drive in Las Vegas? Also he stated yesterday he is not in the least interested in using the public transportation. I know it's a touchy issue of taking away drivers licenses/car keys of senior citizens or deciding living situations against their will due to safety. Better to plan for that and accept your limitations than have a judge or social services to do it for you.
 
Old 10-27-2022, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Heading Northwest In Nevada
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Boy, you folks think I'm negative and your replies about me and my wife, and where we live/lived is very negative. I seriously suggest all of you taking a look in your mirror before talking about someone else!

And, then there's the Florida person wanting to leave Florida. I'll bet those Florida people are pretty much talking negative about them, many saying all of the positive things about Florida.

Wife and I aren't "older, slower drivers", we are simply safe drivers! On the freeway, I drive the legal speed limit, or a little higher to keep up with traffic, but there are still those that come racing by me not caring at all about anyone around them.

We lived, and drove, in Jacksonville, Florida for 10 1/2 years! When we left, the population was 982,000. We done fine. The 2022 population of Vegas is 653,000. IOW, if we could live in Jacksonville, Florida for 10 1/2 years, most likely we could live in Vegas!

It just seems so hard for you folks to understand that we no longer like living in Loveland, just like the person "beachmouse" no longer likes living in Florida (reply#44).

And, as far as complaining about where a person lives, there's a whole lot of it on this forum, not just us and someone else. I doubt anyone here has read every single thread/reply on this forum.
 
Old 10-27-2022, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Heading Northwest In Nevada
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This forum is to HELP people, not criticize the heck out of them! If you don't agree with our feelings about Loveland and the area, that's fine, but to keep running us down about our feeling is not fine.
 
Old 10-27-2022, 09:16 AM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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We’re currently in the research phase for getting out of Florida in a few years and for Colorado, Loveland keeps coming up because we don’t want Colorado Springs for assorted reasons and it seems like you get a lot more for your money in the $400-$600K single family home budget than you do closer to Denver or Ft. Collins proper while at the same time being close to a good number of amenities.

Our plan would be to be cash buyers somewhere; love the freedom of not having a mortgage anymore.
Solidify your selection criteria and focus on having your feelers out. (It might take a while to find the right place).

This region is quite overpriced, and has had some brutal housing corrections, and may be over built. So reasonable pricing could be in your future.

As a senior, I would value 'walkable". Several friends live near Eisenhower and Taft, which can be walkable. There is a nice 55+ patio home, as well as several decent neighborhoods close by. We were walkable near Garfield and 287, but it was busy. Downtown is getting pretty gentrified, but being walkable to Chilson center would be handy. (But not a great neighborhood). West 4th is a nice quiet area if you can deal with an older home, or teardown and rebuild. There are several small lakes surrounded by homes, but higher priced.

As we age and approach 80, I hope to find a lasting spot. Moving often gets hard, and finding new friends takes time and agility which we may no longer have.
 
Old 10-27-2022, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Heading Northwest In Nevada
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Solidify your selection criteria and focus on having your feelers out. (It might take a while to find the right place).

This region is quite overpriced, and has had some brutal housing corrections, and may be over built. So reasonable pricing could be in your future.

As a senior, I would value 'walkable". Several friends live near Eisenhower and Taft, which can be walkable. There is a nice 55+ patio home, as well as several decent neighborhoods close by. We were walkable near Garfield and 287, but it was busy. Downtown is getting pretty gentrified, but being walkable to Chilson center would be handy. (But not a great neighborhood). West 4th is a nice quiet area if you can deal with an older home, or teardown and rebuild. There are several small lakes surrounded by homes, but higher priced.

As we age and approach 80, I hope to find a lasting spot. Moving often gets hard, and finding new friends takes time and agility which we may no longer have.
Now, I like your reply here. Really! But, in reality, what will Loveland be like a few years from now, when "beachmouse" decides they want to move? If "beachmouse" likes diversity, Loveland doesn't have that like Florida does, but that looks like it is changing.

On the western end of Eisenhower, we were told that we live in the best/nicest apartment complex on this end. Don't necessarily know about that, but. And, not all seniors, like us, don't have the finances to buy property or live in a 55+Community. Our next door neighbors, who are in their mid 80's, had to move out of their nice 55+ apartment due to the rising cost of rent.

Anyway, just wanted to let you know that you did a nice reply to "beachmouse".
 
Old 10-27-2022, 10:21 AM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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Now, I like your reply here. Really! But, in reality, what will Loveland be like a few years from now, when "beachmouse" decides they want to move? ....
I can think of a few improvements that will happen to Loveland during the next few yrs.
There are several nice CCRC and other senior housing in permitting process at the moment.
these are already there:
https://www.einnews.com/pr_news/5453...sing-authority
https://mirasolgreenhousehomes.org/
https://www.denverpost.com/2014/12/1...nt-for-elders/
I have a friend planning a similar community near Derby Hill.

The growth mentioned in original post has a lot more to do with eastern Loveland / Windsor / Kelim, which has very little impact on western Loveland. There is plenty of housing east of Loveland for the Windsor based workforce. (warehouses employ few, and will become more automated, employing less.).

Seniors still love to move to Loveland, and there are a lot in that age group yet to arrive. But it is incremental, not explosive growth. 2 bdrm 1500SF homes will increase in demand, but there will be plenty of money inbound for those seeking 4000sf places for their families (or self). Senior and medical service will grow, but that is slow and purposed.

We all live with our choices, or execute our next choice.
I don't plan on returning to Loveland as a resident, as it is too hearbreaking to see the change (thus it is now a nice place to visit often, but I don't desire to live there (but I could, and be content).) CO has politics and changes which are just like I've endured on the left coast. I don't desire to witness or participate (endure) in that transition again. I'm Ag centric (Farm kid), Colorado is being very regulated and painful to that industry, far more rancher friends are forced to leave, as we were in the late 1970's, and thousands since. CO will become another CA and FL (and TX). There are already waiting lists / recreation pressures on CO resources and those places are being eroded in quality and sereneness. Just a fact, not a complaint... so we who desire what once was... must move on, or recalibrate our desires.

For any future reader... do what is best for you, it won't be perfect, and it may not remain as you hope.
Fully explore your choices. (That is what we always stay in local homes (not hotels) and attend events while visiting, as if we lived there. Significant to that effort is community volunteering and involvement (as visitors). We purpose to serve others and to meet those who do likewise. This is our 'thing', so we add that to our research excercise. There was nothing keeping OP from asking the rodeo and tattoo and traffic, and peer pressure (others looking at your western garb), when they did their survey trip.

Seems there was a lot of ranting about how terrible FL had become since they arrived, and no rodeo (tho there is plenty in FL). ... What goes around, comes around, so for other readers... enjoy the journey, it's a wild ride. Expect the unexpected!
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