The state of broadband in Wyoming??? (Jackson: home, business, lookup)

[Hal Roach]

Originally Posted by nm9stheham

5G, when implemented to where it will fulfill its promise, requires very large numbers of small base stations, all of which require wired/fiber 'backhaul' lines to connect the base stations to their switching centers. That is going to limit its deployment to rural areas for a very long time; the cell providers' are essentially having to change their business model for backhaul lines from leasing such lines from telco providers, to building their own lines. (Yes, the cost is HUGE.) This makes it only cost effective for the urban areas. So that leaves the rural areas with just standard cell tower service, and the part of so-called 5G that is really just an upgraded 4G that forms 1 part of the whole 5G family of technologies.


So you may see true 5G in spots like Cheyenne and Laramie and them maybe Sheridan and Cody, and so forth. But 'when' is 'probably not soon'. If you really dig into the actual present 5G deployments in the US, it is just in spotty areas in the urban core areas.

Great points.. So that would make the debut of Starlink that much more important.. Any talk on that?

[nowhereman427]

Originally Posted by OneDawg

A funny thing about cel service. When we lived in Wyoming our only provider was Cellular One. Verizon was talking about coming in, but it didn't happen for a long time. We had portable analog bag phones and got great reception. When digital came about the service got spotty. You could be within a hundred yards of a tower and not get a signal. We went back to the bag phones. Kept using them, until moving down to Georgia - where no one would transfer the service. Ended up with Apple phones.

[nowhereman427]

Originally Posted by Hal Roach

I thought the wind turbines already killed them.

The turbines here do. But so do the airplanes.

[nm9stheham]

Originally Posted by Hal Roach

Great points.. So that would make the debut of Starlink that much more important.. Any talk on that?

Here is a current discussion thread on another technical forum site. https://www.reddit.com/r/Starlink/co...y_allocations/


I counted the total frequency spectrum and it is 61 or 6.2 G Hz total. Some has to be allocated to uplink (you link BACK to the internet) and some has to go to the earth link (from the satellite back to the ground station and then on to the internet or wherever. So maybe that leaves 2.5GHz from each satellite to users on the downlink... that is just an educated guess per satellite, and the real answer might be different as the average number of satellites in view in a certain area can be a factor and how much user demand there is in oe area can depend on the user demand in surrounding areas.


Compared to fiber... that is still a very small bandwidth. So having a link to rural areas is the goal, but it cannot ever have the user + speed capacity of a wired/fiber network or even a cellular network with a lot of nodes (base stations).

[Notebuyer]

Originally Posted by OneDawg

A funny thing about cel service. When we lived in Wyoming our only provider was Cellular One. Verizon was talking about coming in, but it didn't happen for a long time. We had portable analog bag phones and got great reception. When digital came about the service got spotty. You could be within a hundred yards of a tower and not get a signal. We went back to the bag phones. Kept using them, until moving down to Georgia - where no one would transfer the service. Ended up with Apple phones.

The old bag phones, which used analog signals, put out between 3 and 5 watts when transmitting. The modern handheld smart phone, using digital signals, puts out about 1/4 watt or less, which accounts for some of the difference in performance. You could be further from the cell tower with 5 watts and get a better signal.

[sunbelt57]

I had Hughesnet for a couple years at my garage in Wright. It was slow because of the latency issue. It was just the nature of the beast. But after Covid-19 it got way worst. I moved the dish out to my remote location, aligned it and got a good signal but it wasn't working. I tried to get one of the sunbcontractors in Casper to come and look at it and after 2 weeks I realized they just didn't want to come out this far (Lance Creek). I found a company called Vistrabeam which alot of people out here use. They came out and installed it for a initial install fee of $199 and the monthly charge for 16G speed is $84/mo. The monthly charge for the slower speed (8G) is around $60/mo. I posted to this effect on the Hughesnet tech support website and they deleted my posts. I canceled them. I still have to send back the equipment, of course.

[OneDawg]

My new wifi is giving me 200 down and 20 up

[CybrSlydr]

My apartment in Douglas has Vyve Broadband.



I'm quite happy with it - this is wired speeds, not wifi.

[OneDawg]

Wired should be much higher. Mine costs me $70/mo.
What's yours cost?

[CybrSlydr]

Originally Posted by OneDawg

Wired should be much higher. Mine costs me $70/mo.
What's yours cost?

Not sure. lol

Currently living in an apartment that the Gov rents out for seasonal employees and it's included.

https://vyvebroadband.com/internet/

According to that, it should be $40/mo.