Which country has the most appealing sub-regional entities? (2015, luxury)

[rokuoku]

Of the major Anglophone countries, which has the most appealing primary (most populous) province? Which would you choose, for personal reasons? Which one has the scenery, climate, economy, culture, and/or the people you like the most? Which one would you like to live in and/or which one would be great to visit? Which is most representative of its nation? Which is the least representative of its nation?

ENGLAND - UNITED KINGDOM








Population: 56 million

5 major cities: London, Birmingham, Manchester, Leeds, Liverpool

Notable smaller cities and towns: Canterbury, Chester, Cheltenham, Durham, Bournemouth, Brighton, Cambridge, Blackpool

Climate: Oceanic (Cfc) Highest point: Scafell Pike (3,209 ft)

National parks: Peak District, Lake District, North York Moors, Dartmoor, Yorkshire Dales, Exmoor, Northumberland, The Broads, New Forest, South Downs

Ethnicity: 79.8% White British, 1.0% White Irish, 4.6% White Other (primarily Polish, German, French, and Italian), 8% Asian (3% Indian, 2% Pakistani, 2% Asian Other), 3.5% Black (2% African, 1% Caribbean), 2.3% Mixed, 1% Other

GDP (Per capita): $46,008 Average disposable income: $35,049

Richest locality: Westminster, London Poorest locality: Jaywick, Tendring

NEW SOUTH WALES - AUSTRALIA








Population: 8 million

5 major cities: Sydney, Newcastle, Wollongong, Albury, Wodonga

Notable smaller cities and towns: Coffs Harbour, Wagga Wagga, Port Macquarie, Tamworth, Orange, Bowral, Mittagong, Dubbo

Climate: Subarctic (Alpine) (Dfc), Subpolar oceanic (Cfc), Oceanic (Cfb), Humid subtropical (Cfa), Warm-summer mediterranean (Csb), Hot-summer mediterranean (Csa), Cold semi-arid (BSk), Hot semi-arid (BSh), Cold desert (BWk), Hot desert (BWh)

Highest point: Mount Kosciuszko (7,310 ft)

National parks: Gardens of the Stone, Nangar, Hat Head, Ben Boyd, Bindarri, Bournda, Kosciuszko, Barrenjoey, Capoompeta, Middle Brother

Ethnicity: 83.7% White (33% English, 11% Irish, 8% Scottish, 4% Italian, 3% German, 2% Lebanese, 2% Greek, 1% Dutch), 13.7% Asian (7% Chinese, 3% Indian, 2% Filipino, 2% Vietnamese), 2.9% Indigenous (including Torres Strait Islander), 1% New Zealand and other Pacific Islander (Samoan, Maori, Tongan)

GDP (Per capita): $47,609 Average disposable income: $39,000

Richest locality: Double Bay, Sydney Poorest locality: Delungra

ONTARIO - CANADA








Population: 15 million

5 major cities: Toronto, Ottawa, Hamilton, Kitchener, London

Notable smaller cities and towns: Niagara Falls, St. Catharines, Oshawa, Windsor, Barrie, Sudbury, Kingston, Brampton

Climate: Subarctic (Dfc), Warm-summer humid continental (Dfb), Hot-summer humid continental (Dfa), Humid subtropical (Cfa)

Highest point: Ishpatina Ridge (2,274 ft)

National parks: Bruce Peninsula, Point Pelee, Georgian Bay Islands, Pukaskwa, Rouge, Thousand Islands

Ethnicity: 67.8% White (23% Canadian, 23% English, 16% Scottish, 16% Irish, 10% French, 9% German, 7% Italian, 4% Dutch, 4% Polish, 3% Ukrainian, 2% Portuguese, 1% Russian, 1% Welsh, 1% Spanish, 1% Hungarian, 1% Greek), 18% Asian (6% Chinese, 6% Indian, 3% Filipino, 1% Pakistani), 4.7% Black , 2.8% Aboriginal (1% Metis), 1.6% Arab

GDP (Per capita): $47,847 Average disposable income: $34,421

Richest locality: Guelph - Toronto Poorest locality: ?

CALIFORNIA - UNITED STATES








Population: 39 million

5 major cities: Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Diego, San Jose, Sacramento

Notable smaller cities and towns: Fresno, Riverside, Palm Springs, Oakland, Santa Barbara, Pasadena, Ojai, Monterey

Climate: Hot desert (BWh), Cold desert (BWk), Hot semi-arid (BSh), Cold semi-arid (BSk), Hot-summer mediterranean (Csa), Warm-summer mediterranean (Csb), Cold-summer mediterranean (Csc), Oceanic (Cfb), Warm-summer mediterranean continental (Dsb), Dry-summer subarctic (alpine) (Dsc), Tundra (Alpine) (ET)

Highest point: Mount Whitney (14,505 ft)

National parks: Channel Islands, Death Valley, Joshua Tree, Sequoia, Kings Canyon, Lassen Volcanic, Pinnacles, Redwoods, Yosemite

Ethnicity: 39.3% Hispanic or Latino (31% Mexican - including Chinese Mexican and Punjabi Mexican, 2% Salvadoran, 1% Guatemalan, 1% Puerto Rican - also includes an unknown % of Californios, Criollos, and European Americans with Spanish ancestry), and 36.6% Non-Hispanic White (8% German, 7% Irish, 6% English, 6% Italian, 3% Russian, 3% Dutch, 1% Portuguese, 1% Danish, 1% Swedish, 1% French) - also includes an unknown % of Californios, Criollos, and European Americans with Spanish ancestry), 16% Asian (4% Filipino, 3% Chinese, 2% Vietnamese, 1% Indian, 1% Korean, 1% Japanese), 8% African-American, 7% Middle-Eastern and Arab (3% Jewish, 2% Armenian, 2% Iranian, <1% Romani), 6% Two or more races, 1.3% Native American, and 0.7% Pacific Islander (including Hawaiian, Samoan, Chamorro, Tahitian, Palauan, and Chuukese)

GDP (Per capita): $85,546 Average disposable income: $64,994

Richest locality: Los Altos, San Francisco Bay Area Poorest locality: Orange Cove, Santa Barbara

[rokuoku]

Could anyone find the poorest city in Ontario that isn’t a reservation?

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by rokuoku

Could anyone find the poorest city in Ontario that isn’t a reservation?

I think the poorest largish city and the poorest town in Ontario (aside from Indigenous reserves) are at both opposite ends of the southern part of the province.

Windsor (pop. approx. 300,000), which is at the far southwestern end of Ontario, at the US border and across from Detroit, Michigan, is probably the poorest large city in Ontario. Though don't be mistaken: it's not at all like Detroit in terms of its problems.

Almost 900 km away, at the far eastern end of Ontario, the town of Hawkesbury has about 10,000 people and is probably the poorest town in Ontario. It sits about halfway between Ottawa and Montreal.

[Joe90]

Looks like NZ is no longer regarded as major Anglo country.... not surprised I guess ... I kind of feel like the government here feels contempt for the concept of Anglo-ness.

[norcal2k19]

Why not include the Northeast US or New England US with its high quality of life, good health and transit access, and high incomes?

[Joe90]

Originally Posted by norcal2k19

Why not include the Northeast US or New England US with its high quality of life, good health and transit access, and high incomes?

It might be too Anglo - Anglo seems a somewhat dirty word these days, imo.

[rokuoku]

Originally Posted by Joe90

Looks like NZ is no longer regarded as major Anglo country.... not surprised I guess ... I kind of feel like the government here feels contempt for the concept of Anglo-ness.

I mean...for brevity's sake, I didn't include it or Ireland. They're both too small.

[rokuoku]

Originally Posted by norcal2k19

Why not include the Northeast US or New England US with its high quality of life, good health and transit access, and high incomes?

...because we're talking about official sub-regional divisions like states, provinces, or nation-states. And are you seriously claiming California doesn't have any of those things?

It might be too Anglo - Anglo seems a somewhat dirty word these days, imo.

In terms of what, ethnicity? The most "Anglo" states in the northeast would be rural Vermont or Maine. Otherwise, the northeast doesn't have that much English ancestry, a lot of states in the northeast have a predominance of German, Italian, and Polish European ancestry, and a very diverse array of ethnicity and race all the same.

[rokuoku]

Originally Posted by Acajack

I think the poorest largish city and the poorest town in Ontario (aside from Indigenous reserves) are at both opposite ends of the southern part of the province.

Windsor (pop. approx. 300,000), which is at the far southwestern end of Ontario, at the US border and across from Detroit, Michigan, is probably the poorest large city in Ontario. Though don't be mistaken: it's not at all like Detroit in terms of its problems.

Almost 900 km away, at the far eastern end of Ontario, the town of Hawkesbury has about 10,000 people and is probably the poorest town in Ontario. It sits about halfway between Ottawa and Montreal.

Detroit is a big city, it isn't that bad, especially not nowadays.

[norcal2k19]

Originally Posted by rokuoku

...because we're talking about official sub-regional divisions like states, provinces, or nation-states. And are you seriously claiming California doesn't have any of those things?



In terms of what, ethnicity? The most "Anglo" states in the northeast would be rural Vermont or Maine. Otherwise, the northeast doesn't have that much English ancestry, a lot of states in the northeast have a predominance of German, Italian, and Polish European ancestry, and a very diverse array of ethnicity and race all the same.

No need for such a defensive response. I lived in California for several years. Yes - it spikes on higher ed and natural beauty. I love the state, but it's seriously lacking in K-12 education and transit.

In addition, it tends to lack the proper follow through on policy implementation, which is why government services tend to be much better in the Northeast - the snow still needs to get picked up and the trash cleared.

Of course, California votes similar to the NE/Northeast, but lacks the pragmatism that's key to good government.

My key point here is the USA is such a big country that's why I referenced one other option. California doesn't have the highest HDI in the US. When folks from outside the US talk about the country's problems, they often forget about the very high quality of life in certain parts of the country (like the best of all worlds - high salaries, large markets, good economic opportunity, and a good safety net along with nice nature). Also while "New England" or the "Northeast" aren't official states, they are official government regional classifications.