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Old 11-05-2015, 06:23 AM
 
Location: Fortaleza, Northeast of Brazil
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Of course the USA has one more advantage: language.

It's easier to attract the best professors and best students in the world to a country where everyone speaks English, a language those professors and students probably can speak at least on a basic level, than attract them to countries where everyone speaks German, Japanese or Mandarin.

But the massive funds are still the main factor.
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Old 11-05-2015, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Finland
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The UK might come close, but otherwise no.

The Ivy league schools have as said enormous funding and attract the best and the brightest from all over the world. Most European universities focus equally to educate masses, when losers like me can be admitted to a local university, while I could never be admitted to Harvard.
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Old 11-05-2015, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Fortaleza, Northeast of Brazil
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Cambridge and Oxford in the UK are very well funded too, but not as well funded as the top 5 in the USA.

And Cambridge and Oxford are just two universities. The USA has a dozen or more "uber rich" universities.
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Old 11-05-2015, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Manhattan, NYC
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Well US universities are wealthy, but that's just about it, in my opinion.

But how does that explain that a good part of quants in financial institutions are educated... in France? . Such a mystery...
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Old 11-05-2015, 07:10 AM
 
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I think it also has to do with the very high tuition fees in the US. In comparison, you can study practically for free in germany.
Of course Universities will have lots of money if it costs you an arm and a leg to attend them.
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Old 11-05-2015, 07:50 AM
 
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Well US universities are wealthy, but that's just about it, in my opinion.

But how does that explain that a good part of quants in financial institutions are educated... in France? . Such a mystery...
And in the London School of Economics....

But when you talk about Engineering, Physics, Chemistry, Electronics, then the uber rich US universities are on top...

It takes a lot of money to do advanced research on those fields.
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Old 11-05-2015, 08:33 AM
 
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Of course the USA has one more advantage: language.
True, but graduate programs in technical fields in most of Europe are usually taught in English. If you're getting a graduate degree at, say, the University of Heidelberg, your classes will be in English (unless you're studying something like German History or something). Engineering, the Sciences, Business, etc. will be in English.
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Old 11-05-2015, 08:35 AM
 
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I think it also has to do with the very high tuition fees in the US. In comparison, you can study practically for free in germany.
Of course Universities will have lots of money if it costs you an arm and a leg to attend them.
Most PhD students in the U.S. pay nothing. It's the graduate programs that determine a university's rankings.

And while it's true that undergraduate tuition in the U.S. is very high, only about 25% of students pay full tuition. And for elite schools like Harvard, Stanford, Columbia, etc. you pay nothing if your family is middle or low income. Only wealthy families pay full tuition at elite U.S. institutions.

Here's an example (but all the elite schools have roughly the same income standards). Stanford has 100% free tuition for any family earning 125,000 USD or less.
http://money.cnn.com/2015/04/01/pf/c...financial-aid/
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Old 11-05-2015, 08:39 AM
 
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Sounds like you just consider the UK Oxbridge/US Harvard - Yale et al model to be "best".
Well. yeah, I do. So does most of the world. Most would agree that schools such as Harvard or Stanford are among the world's elite. Why would you say this isn't the case?

Granted, there are hundreds of excellent universities around the world, but if you have to rank them, most would place such schools at or near the top.
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Old 11-05-2015, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Manhattan, NYC
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And in the London School of Economics....

But when you talk about Engineering, Physics, Chemistry, Electronics, then the uber rich US universities are on top...

It takes a lot of money to do advanced research on those fields.
I can guarantee that companies around the world want to have those graduated from the Grande Ecoles in France for all engineering purposes. Just in my company, which is US head-quartered, they are literally "loved" over many others!
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