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Old 09-30-2023, 06:47 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Job market is not nearly as vital as it was a year ago. Employers have more leverage in determining where employees work.
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Old 09-30-2023, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Job market is not nearly as vital as it was a year ago. Employers have more leverage in determining where employees work.
Yes, I think this is exactly what it is. The joke's on them though. With being in the office 5 days a week my productivity and effort will be at an all time low. My coworkers pretty much said the same thing.
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Old 09-30-2023, 09:59 AM
 
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Yes, I think this is exactly what it is. The joke's on them though. With being in the office 5 days a week my productivity and effort will be at an all time low. My coworkers pretty much said the same thing.
Flex?
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Old 09-30-2023, 10:00 AM
 
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Goodness; so much whining about what we all used to do without even thinking about it before the pandemic...
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Old 09-30-2023, 10:25 AM
 
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Goodness; so much whining about what we all used to do without even thinking about it before the pandemic...
Who says we didn't think about it!?! We did it begrudgingly because we had no choice but will still thought about it. That is why people are so reluctant to give up WFH, they remember all too well how much 5 days a week in office sucks.
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Old 09-30-2023, 12:24 PM
 
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Yes, I think this is exactly what it is. The joke's on them though. With being in the office 5 days a week my productivity and effort will be at an all time low. My coworkers pretty much said the same thing.
And nobody is irreplaceable.
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Old 09-30-2023, 12:27 PM
 
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Who says we didn't think about it!?! We did it begrudgingly because we had no choice but will still thought about it. That is why people are so reluctant to give up WFH, they remember all too well how much 5 days a week in office sucks.
Did people really, though? There was always some murmuring about four-day work weeks, but I never saw anyone apply for a remote position (and they were out there). If working in an office "sucked" so bad, why not?
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Old 09-30-2023, 12:29 PM
 
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Did people really, though? There was always some murmuring about four-day work weeks, but I never saw anyone apply for a remote position (and they were out there). If working in an office "sucked" so bad, why not?
There was no catalyst until COVID created a bit of a panic within society. Inertia is very hard to overcome.
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Old 09-30-2023, 12:57 PM
 
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Did people really, though? There was always some murmuring about four-day work weeks, but I never saw anyone apply for a remote position (and they were out there). If working in an office "sucked" so bad, why not?
Remote work has been around a long time. My dad was a remote worker starting in the late 1950s. But let's talk telework which is the version most people think of. The first person I knew who a teleworker in today's terms was coworker's wife in the early 1980s. When he transferred to our office, the company his wife worked for wanted to keep her so much they bought her a computer, printer, and modem, and paid the costs, for her to telework over the phone line. With the explosion in computer and internet tech, it become much talked about by the early 2000s. There was constant pressure from that point for businesses to allow telework but it was as someone mentioned COVID was the catalyst that forced businesses to begin telework in large numbers.

In answer to your question, people have been clamoring for telework for over a decade now; the roadblock has been management.
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Old 09-30-2023, 01:14 PM
 
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My point was: there were remote positions available before Covid if anyone wanted one.
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