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Old 06-08-2022, 02:21 PM
 
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Things are getting better for young people. It was a damn struggle for me in 2008 when I graduated during the recession.
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Old 06-08-2022, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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Hello, software developer of 5 years here. Since Covid, the demand for software developers has seemed to SKYROCKET. I left my last job 8 months ago for a 50% pay raise. I'm getting offers in linkedin for another 50% pay raise.

My first job was $60k. Only 5 years in and I'm at $90k getting offers for $135k+ all of a sudden. All full-remote (which is why you're struggling). A co-worker from my last job just told me that they increased salaries across the department by 20% this year to keep up with demand.

I heard there's a 30% shortage of IT/Software people, so that might explain it too.

Better up your salary offer or you won't get anyone!

Preaching to the choir, though neither of these jobs are IT/software. They're marketing analytics and web accessibility reporting into the marketing (me) and web teams in higher ed. There's no more money to be had to pay them, and what's worse, even if we *could* pay $100K+ then these entry level roles would be making more than all but a few senior managers in the office.

What's going to happen is everyone is going to leave because we're expected to be OK with our annual 2.5% raise (which doesn't even cover half of my rent increase alone). But the work still needs to get done, and there is truly no money to hire new talent.

Some companies are better than others about making equitable raises for long-term folks when they need to up salaries. Others, like mine, would prefer to be penny wise and hope folks stay without compensation, only to be shocked when folks leave and it costs twice as much to replace them.
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Old 06-09-2022, 07:21 PM
 
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No, our daughter did not have any relevant work experience, they were hiring for entry level positions.
So she got lucky.
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Old 06-09-2022, 07:22 PM
 
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We have 3 entry level roles we're trying to fill in my office but have had no luck,
What are the experience requirements for these "entry level" roles?


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Granted, I live in a very HCOL area, but it's really indicative of the market today.
So jack up your salary offers.
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Old 06-09-2022, 08:02 PM
 
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No, our daughter did not have any relevant work experience, they were hiring for entry level positions.
That is incredible and I hope more companies are doing that. By far one of the must frustrating part of the job hunts is applying for the "entry level" positions when nearly all the entry level positions want 2-5 years of exp.
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Old 06-12-2022, 11:56 AM
 
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You gotta start somewhere and employers are always willing to take a chance on entry level kids.
Which employers do this?

Besides Mcjobs and sales jobs.

Any advertised job with zero experience requirements has 300-500 applicants for one slot. Lottery winner odds.
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Old 06-12-2022, 12:00 PM
 
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Which employers do this?
Mine does... you have to be 25 though, you can't be 40.
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Old 06-12-2022, 12:02 PM
 
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Mine does... you have to be 25 though, you can't be 40.
Name of company and location please.

I don't expect an answer. I'm always expected to accept what people say on blind trust.

Of course, older career changers are not allowed at your company.
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Old 06-12-2022, 12:06 PM
 
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Name of company and location please.

I don't expect an answer. I'm always expected to accept what people say on blind trust.

Of course, older career changers are not allowed at your company.
I will give you the name and location of a similar company.

Dewberry Engineering.

Or Tetra Tech.

Pick a location...

Of course they hire kids out of school.
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Old 06-12-2022, 01:01 PM
 
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I will give you the name and location of a similar company.

Dewberry Engineering.
Zero entry level IT jobs.
https://careers-dewberry.icims.com/j...cation=12781--

Zero entry level accounting jobs.
https://careers-dewberry.icims.com/j...cation=12781--

Zero entry level Project/Program management:
https://careers-dewberry.icims.com/j...cation=12781--

If they were hiring entry level, they're not doing that now.



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Or Tetra Tech.
Entry level. Requires 2 years experience.

https://tetratech.referrals.selectmi...-analyst-27786


Data Scientist

entry level, requires 5 years experience.
https://tetratech.referrals.selectmi...cientist-27782

Test engineer

entry level, 4 years experience required.
https://tetratech.referrals.selectmi...engineer-27784


They're enforcing the catch-22.
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