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Old 01-24-2022, 12:42 PM
 
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The employees may have to continue to work for Thedacare but what is their performance going to be like? Does Thedacare want disgruntled and mad employees working for them? Perhaps their performance would go down so low that they would have to be fired?

Seems like a lose-lose situation for both. Does Thedacare really want enraged employees working for them and perhaps sabotaging their company? Even temporarily until they hire in a new team?
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Old 01-24-2022, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Yakima yes, an apartment!
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Perhaps the employees signed non-complete agreements and these are being enforced.
Maybe reading the article might help you understand what they are doing. If there was such a contract (Hint: There isn't) then they're actions (former employees) wouldn't be legal.
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Old 01-24-2022, 02:06 PM
 
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I was all ready to be outraged but honestly ThedaCare isn't trying to keep its employees from leaving outright, it's just trying to make sure it doesn't lose an entire team at once and can continue to keep that department functional. Of course you could argue that ThedaCare could have actually offered to match or exceed the offers that Ascension has been giving to those employees that began searching elsewhere instead of seeking an injunction, but I think the first line of their statement really says it best:

It doesn't matter what their reasons are. Unless those workers had performance contracts or non-compete clauses or are taking intellectual property, it's nobody's business - not even a judge's - if they choose to leave their job and work for someone else.
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Old 01-24-2022, 02:07 PM
 
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When 7 of 11 are leaving, it says a lot that the team is gone. Further, they're not going to go to go back to Thedacare, so this is simply a **** poor attempt to get a cheap shot at them for leaving for a better offer

In addition, would you like to be forced to not work for a new employers by a previous employer just because they can't get people to work for way less?
The company should have had back up plans in place.
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Old 01-24-2022, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Log "cabin" west of Bangor
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The employees may have to continue to work for Thedacare but what is their performance going to be like? Does Thedacare want disgruntled and mad employees working for them? Perhaps their performance would go down so low that they would have to be fired?

Seems like a lose-lose situation for both. Does Thedacare really want enraged employees working for them and perhaps sabotaging their company? Even temporarily until they hire in a new team?

I'm thinking that these [former] employees now have standing to sue Theda. Two words: tortious interference.


These folks are being deprived of income. A GoFundMe has been set up for them.
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Old 01-24-2022, 02:35 PM
 
Location: northern New England
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I also saw the video and found the judge's actions outrageous. If anything, Theda should sue Ascension (for $$ damages) and let the employees work where they want. Isn't there a cause of action something like, interfering with someone's ability to earn a living? I can't remember the exact term.
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Old 01-24-2022, 03:07 PM
 
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The first article has been updated and it looks like another judge ruled in favor of the workers leaving.
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Old 01-24-2022, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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The moment a judge can say when you can quit your job is the moment a judge has to much power.
Yep. I don't care that the bulk of a hospital department is leaving. They have a right to leave. Who the heck is a judge to tell them they can't leave? If/when the law allows a judge to do this, we have a problem.
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Old 01-24-2022, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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How loud does Thedacare broadcast that they're a toxic employer by suing employees who quit? VERY loud.
I agree. Who in their right mind is going to want to work for Thedacare after this?
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Old 01-24-2022, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Yakima yes, an apartment!
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Judge Revoked TRO.....

https://youtu.be/qdP97A3Q1


Thedacare still is suing, but the workers can start for Ascension.
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