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Don’t waste time with morality when dealing with a capitalist company. Yes, give the two weeks. But do it to protect your interests. The company can mark you ineligible for rehire if you quit without notice, which could cause an issue with employment verification for future jobs. That IMO would be the ONLY reason to give the two weeks. To hell with the coworkers, to hell with “the right thing to do”, protect your interests because no one else will.
Companies can still mark you as ineligible for rehire even if you quit with two weeks notice. And even if you've been a hard worker and had a great deal of credibility and respect with the company. Some companies don't like it if people resign and will take it out on the ex-employee as best as they can.
Don’t waste time with morality when dealing with a capitalist company. Yes, give the two weeks. But do it to protect your interests. The company can mark you ineligible for rehire if you quit without notice, which could cause an issue with employment verification for future jobs. That IMO would be the ONLY reason to give the two weeks. To hell with the coworkers, to hell with “the right thing to do”, protect your interests because no one else will.
The company can mark you ineligible for rehire no matter what you do.
Companies can still mark you as ineligible for rehire even if you quit with two weeks notice. And even if you've been a hard worker and had a great deal of credibility and respect with the company. Some companies don't like it if people resign and will take it out on the ex-employee as best as they can.
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Originally Posted by oceangaia
The company can mark you ineligible for rehire no matter what you do.
Then just quit, and give no notice. If it doesn't matter, then you have ZERO, ZILCH, NADA incentive to do anything to help the employer upon your departure. The legitimate organizations I've worked for only provide dates of employment. I've also never been asked to leave upon giving notice. And when it comes to professional references, I make lots of close connections on the inside, so I've never had issue finding someone to talk positively about my work product.
But since others here apparently work(ed) for Satan himself, then I would agree; do absolutely nothing for them including giving a notice, and ONLY look out for your best interests! If they're going to give you negative referrals simply for leaving a job, or they're tracking your keystrokes, or monitoring your toilet breaks, then there really is no hope for ya. Sorry, but you're screwed and there's no undoing any of it and you may as well give up--your life is completely over and they might actually own your namesake and other assets after your passing.
Then just quit, and give no notice. If it doesn't matter, then you have ZERO, ZILCH, NADA incentive to do anything to help the employer upon your departure. The legitimate organizations I've worked for only provide dates of employment. I've also never been asked to leave upon giving notice. And when it comes to professional references, I make lots of close connections on the inside, so I've never had issue finding someone to talk positively about my work product.
But since others here apparently work(ed) for Satan himself, then I would agree; do absolutely nothing for them including giving a notice, and ONLY look out for your best interests! If they're going to give you negative referrals simply for leaving a job, or they're tracking your keystrokes, or monitoring your toilet breaks, then there really is no hope for ya. Sorry, but you're screwed and there's no undoing any of it and you may as well give up--your life is completely over and they might actually own your namesake and other assets after your passing.
Wait a minute, if you know that you are going to get a negative referral and a NO for an eligible for rehire, you just move on. You interview with other companies and you leave when you secure a new job. Most savvy employers know that some companies become disgruntled with their employees just for resigning and give bad references. Just as you said, you build your professional references and rely on those.
No, your life isn't over. Those disgruntled former employers don't own you and can't really do that much to harm you. Life goes on.
Wait a minute, if you know that you are going to get a negative referral and a NO for an eligible for rehire, you just move on. You interview with other companies and you leave when you secure a new job. Most savvy employers know that some companies become disgruntled with their employees just for resigning and give bad references. Just as you said, you build your professional references and rely on those.
No, your life isn't over. Those disgruntled former employers don't own you and can't really do that much to harm you. Life goes on.
I was being facetious. Some people give too much credence to how much control their employer has over their life. Of course you move on. Most legitimate companies are not marking departing employees as ineligible for rehire out of spite or sharing this information to other employers out of fear that their asses will be tied up in a major class action lawsuit for trying to destroy people's lives over petty business squabbles.
Years from now, when all the positions have transitioned and people have moved on, your going to want to find your next, next job. Someone will call to verify your background. They will reach someone likely not even there now and the only thing they will honestly have to say is....the person was employed from x to y. The person's title was x...and the person was either terminated for cause (no call no show) or they gave notice and left voluntarily.
It seems petty, but HR will not screw with that because if they say someone was no call no show when in fact they did give notice, that's grounds for a lawsuit.
Years from now, when all the positions have transitioned and people have moved on, your going to want to find your next, next job. Someone will call to verify your background. They will reach someone likely not even there now and the only thing they will honestly have to say is....the person was employed from x to y. The person's title was x...and the person was either terminated for cause (no call no show) or they gave notice and left voluntarily.
I think more likely that no one will be calling anyone, an employer will use a reference verification service that will have it's computers to compare dates of emploment in your resume against dates of employment in umpteen databases, along with credit history and public/criminal records to generate a report that flags areas of concern.
It seems petty, but HR will not screw with that because if they say someone was no call no show when in fact they did give notice, that's grounds for a lawsuit.
And what if you give two weeks notice and leave after two days? Will the company record it as gave notice, quit without notice (risky since technically you did give notice), or some hybrid status of "gave notice, did not fulfill notice" (which adds another layer of complexity).
Years from now, when all the positions have transitioned and people have moved on, your going to want to find your next, next job. Someone will call to verify your background. They will reach someone likely not even there now and the only thing they will honestly have to say is....the person was employed from x to y. The person's title was x...and the person was either terminated for cause (no call no show) or they gave notice and left voluntarily.
It seems petty, but HR will not screw with that because if they say someone was no call no show when in fact they did give notice, that's grounds for a lawsuit.
I don't know of any company that discloses reason for termination. Why would they?
Standard operating procedure for employment verification is: dates of employment and last position held. No mention of resignation, termination, notice or anything else.
In an employment at will state, the employer or the employee can terminate employment for any reason with or without notice. (There certain exceptions for a mass layoff.) There is no legal requirement to give notice. In most cases it's considered a professional courtesy. If a company has a policy that requires notice and they waive the notice, you should be paid. If there is no policy and you choose to give notice as a professional courtesy, you can be told to leave immediately without pay. Some companies do in fact pay the notice period.
Last edited by Maddie104; 09-03-2021 at 02:23 PM..
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