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Old 07-09-2021, 11:53 AM
 
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Wife has applied for a job that:

1. Has been open for 7 weeks
2. Is located in a remote National Park

The online application asked her for her desired salary. She provided one, based on some research for similar jobs with similar responsibilities.

Within a few hours, she was contacted by HR to set up an interview. This occurred on Monday, July 5.

My wife's theory is that the position is unfilled because people don't want to work in a National Park.
My theory is that the pay is way below our extrapolation, and that the pay is what's preventing people from taking the job.

Would welcome thoughts from the collective hive mind here.

Would provide updates as the story progresses.
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Old 07-09-2021, 12:09 PM
 
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If you wife put her desired salary and they called her anyway.. I am not so sure that salary is the problem.

It could be they are just dragging their feet... when I was unemployed a few years ago I was contacted by my current employer... asked a few questions and then I didn't hear from them for a month... I thought that was that... kinda got mad too but then they called me in for an interview and I ended up getting the job.

Turns out, they had become extremely busy on a project which took everyone's attention.
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Old 07-09-2021, 12:27 PM
 
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Good points. My ASSumption is that HR wouldn't schedule an interview with an applicant who's desired pay was x% beyond what they were willing to pay.

The quick turn from her resume submission to the interview set-up either means they're excited or they just skimmed her submission and missed her pay desires.
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Old 07-09-2021, 02:41 PM
 
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I'd agree with your wife. Many positions at national parks are coveted. Some are not. There's some positions that are limited and are hard to reach or shut down in winter, does her job have those possible issues?

BTW, parks are just now opening also.....
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Old 07-09-2021, 02:52 PM
 
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it's an upper level executive position; not seasonal. The roads in the park close in winter; there's some winter activities there but her job would still be filled.

That doesn't help me process as to why it's not filled though.
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Old 07-09-2021, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Yakima yes, an apartment!
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it's an upper level executive position; not seasonal. The roads in the park close in winter; there's some winter activities there but her job would still be filled.

That doesn't help me process as to why it's not filled though.
Might help to not worry about it either. Congratulate her and accept good fortune.
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Old 07-09-2021, 06:20 PM
 
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it's an upper level executive position; not seasonal. The roads in the park close in winter; there's some winter activities there but her job would still be filled.

That doesn't help me process as to why it's not filled though.
Some insights from someone who's worked for "remote" NPs. Finding it hard to fill may not be due to the job itself, or the job tends to be one that people don't stay in very long; they move up after a shorter time. Living conditions in the community associated with that remote NP may not attract applicants at that career level. The local community's relationship with the NPS can make living there a challenge. If the NPS policies aren't popular and you hold a position that influences local business, it can make things awkward with the neighbors.

There may be little to no choice in housing, no local activities applicants want year round, no educational resources for school age kids unless you home school (and if there's no school there are probably few activities for kids), no local medical care, no church. The logistics of reaching goods, services, far away friends or family (like elderly parents who are starting to need assistance) are simply more difficult. Utilities may be limited and/or sky high in cost. Obviously COLAs can buffer that somewhat but maybe not enough. An upper level position may require a lot of travel even in the connectivity age. A remote home base adds days to every trip.

I've watched an endless stream of colleagues come and go over and over again...many don't stick it out very long. Sure, the novelty and initial excitement is great, but it wears off. That lifestyle can be an eye-opener and isn't for everyone.

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Old 07-09-2021, 06:57 PM
 
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Phone interview went well. Pay discussed was less than half of what she indicated she wanted on the online application.

She's being forwarded to the next step in the hiring process.
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Old 07-09-2021, 07:52 PM
 
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Phone interview went well. Pay discussed was less than half of what she indicated she wanted on the online application.

She's being forwarded to the next step in the hiring process.
Really? I'd have said "thanks but no thanks" only offering half, no wonder no one wanted it.
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Old 07-10-2021, 04:06 AM
 
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Normally that's what she would have done. They did make some reference to "wiggle room" in the salary, and although there can't be THAT much wiggle room, going through the rest of the process will give her information on the company and it's practices as well as lay a foundation should another opening come up.

"There are a couple other candidates who are further along in the process" tells me that they might be sending the selecting officials good candidates as they come along. This could explain why the position has been open so long.

Will update with anything interesting that develops.
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