Why do companies say entry yet they want experience? (employees, apply, college degree)

[helpmeout1]

I don’t get how most employers put entry position but they want people with experience which makes no sense, if you have experience your not looking for an entry role position,

[Liar_Liar]

They want experienced professionals who are willing to work for entry level salary

[Hemlock140]

Entry is simply the lowest level at the organization, or in that department. It does not mean no experience required. The "entry level" position under me starts at about $50k,

and requires 2 years experience. Then there are 3 higher levels requiring additional experience (3, 4, and 6 years) going up to about $80k.


I have seen many signs advertising jobs open with no experience required but they are typically in the $15/hour range. Most recently was at an oil change place, not one I would use if they hire people with no experience.

[Lekrii]

"Entry level" means a few different things. You can be entry level to a particular career path or job band, but still are expected to have professional experience in some way.

[Disgustedman]

Originally Posted by helpmeout1

I don’t get how most employers put entry position but they want people with experience which makes no sense, if you have experience your not looking for an entry role position,

There was a newsgroup devoted to "Entry level jobs" years (1994) ago. But the "entry level" meant anywhere from new to 1.5 years experience.......

It all depends on the employer.....

[helpmeout1]

I doubt anyone with experience would be willing to work at entry position because then you gonna get people who will complain because they are not making the money they think they should be. Entry should mean to get your foot in the door right or at least that’s how I see it. I can do anything I want if I put my mind to it but employers should list those job as experience required job and not put entry in the title because that is somewhat misleading and I get you don’t have to apply but when you see entry especially for like plumbers, electrician, hvac etc... you are expecting that you could join with 0 experience and you will get on the job training.

Just a quick question I had and I am not looking for a new career or anything to be honest because I like what I do and I make decent money.

[Arya Stark]

Because they want experience and want to PAY entry level.

[Hemlock140]

Originally Posted by helpmeout1

I doubt anyone with experience would be willing to work at entry position because then you gonna get people who will complain because they are not making the money they think they should be. Entry should mean to get your foot in the door right or at least that’s how I see it. I can do anything I want if I put my mind to it but employers should list those job as experience required job and not put entry in the title because that is somewhat misleading and I get you don’t have to apply but when you see entry especially for like plumbers, electrician, hvac etc... you are expecting that you could join with 0 experience and you will get on the job training.

Just a quick question I had and I am not looking for a new career or anything to be honest because I like what I do and I make decent money.

Even when no experience is required, people that do have experience will apply, and will be more likely to get hired. Where I work many of the current employees started their experience with college or graduate internships.

[2Loud]

Same goes for a college degree. My company frequently makes that a requirement. They have attempted to add that to all of my hires and I always have to go back to HR and have it removed for my open positions.

I run a Software Technical Support team for a 3D Printing company. Our software is very niche and specific to our products. Give me three months and I can train them in everything they need to know to help customers. More interestingly it has seemed in my 15 years of management, those that did not go to college had more out of the box ideas and were less "programmed" with answers.

Same goes with our entry Inside Sales positions. Those that succeeded simply had the gift of gab. Experience selling helps obviously but it is entry and a place for people to hone those skills. At $15/hr you're not going to get much many people with "experience" in Sales. Be reasonable.

[NORTY FLATZ]

If you pay bananas, you're going to get monkeys.