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"Visionary leadership" = You have a CEO with severe ADHD who is constantly pulling random stuff out of his ass at 3:30 pm on Friday, wanting to see it on his desk by 9 a.m. Monday.
I laughed so hard at this because I used to work for someone like this. He would dream up "big" ideas and then act like these ideas were so fantastic that they need to be implemented NOW (especially if it would save him money). Cue weeks of rushing and stressing and extra hours to get things ready, because senior management wouldn't even try to reason with him. And or course, you never felt satisfied with the end result after all the rushing.
I've had my own share of red flag interviews. One company talked up the crazy amount of overtime the position required. Another hiring manager hinted at it without actually using the words, then proceeded to insult me in the process.
More recently, I interviewed at a company that had exactly one online review that basically thrashed the company president as a terrible, micromanaging boss. Normally that's not enough for me to form my opinion, but I got the exact same sense just from spending 15 minutes with her.
I think the point was that wearing different kinds of clothes doesn't further a person's intellect or further their business, and companies should realize that. It doesn't matter whether it is the owner of a company or the lowest employee. Of course business owners can dress any way they want, but that doesn't make them more productive. Neither does forcing ordinary workers to dress up improve their productivity either. Companies have to realize that their policies impact how potential workers perceive them. In an era where business suits are going the way of the dinosaur, it may not make too much sense for companies to have stringent dress codes anymore.
Oh absolutely. I have successfully worked from home for well over a decade in my workout clothing and have been promoted all along. However, I thought someone was trying to say it is unimportant how one dresses in an interview, that they should focus on what you're saying vs. what you're wearing. That is utter hogwash unless I misinterpreted it. Granted, I didn't read through this entire thread.
"Fast paced" = One of three things: Sorely understaffed, chaotic workflow, or a sales team that always overpromises. Or maybe a toxic combination of all three.
"We're more like a family" = Uh oh. That means you're going to have to go above and beyond without any reasonable expectation of commensurate pay out of some mysterious, almost feudal code of family honor. The CEO will make all kinds of boneheaded decisions that everybody has to live with. It also means that you'll have to endlessly socialize with other staff members. And, by the way, your mom and dad aren't going to fire you from the family.
"Visionary leadership" = You have a CEO with severe ADHD who is constantly pulling random stuff out of his ass at 3:30 pm on Friday, wanting to see it on his desk by 9 a.m. Monday.
"We have a [basketball court/pinball machine in the breakroom/other random amenities]" = If you're ever actually caught using those before 8 pm at night, you'll hear about it in your next employee review.
"Start up opportunity" = Not only are we starved for cash, but the owner was too stupid to ask the bank for a decent line of credit when asking for the small business loan.
"We are looking for committed individuals" = Hope you like working weekends.
"In six months, you'll see opportunities open up for promotion" = You will die at the same oars that were issued to you the day you boarded this slave ship.
"You are empowered to make your own decisions" = In other words, we are throwing all responsibility in your lap and will endlessly nitpick your decisions, even if it was the right one
"Close-knit office" = The president is banging half the women who work there.
"We like to support our community'" = You will be shanghaied into building houses for Habitat for Humanity at least 2-3 weekends a year.
"We are a faith-based company" = Hoo boy. First, every single word you say will be parsed to see how it measures up to someone's inner moral code. You'll start staff meetings with prayers and face relentless pressure to attend Bible study on your lunch hour. In conversations by the water cooler, you'll be asked about where you go to church as if it's their damned business. And, if it isn't whatever fundamentalist Church of What's Happening Now your boss and his minions attend, you'll always be on the outside looking in. Speaking of, buoyed by his sense of self-preening righteousness, the CEO will make decisions regarding pay and benefits that would make Ebeneezer Scrooge look up and say, "Damn, that's cold." Yet, he'll periodically have to take his laptop off to get debugged from whatever porn site he likes to visit when the doors are closed to his office.
"The customer is always right" = "We desperately need your business and we'll suck your d*ck to get it."
Holy cow, people. You all have some horrible experiences!!!
I have been told "family atmosphere" and it did not mean you work there 24/7, it really meant, they were like that; they had picnics all together on weekends and lots of PAID work events where family members could attend on a voluntary basis (I did not)
My current job has a ping pong table and people play during breaks or if they show up early for their shift.
It is fast paced because a lot of things change all the time so you have to be flexible - doesnt have anything to do with overtime. I dont do any overtime and it is fast paced
We do support our community - once a year build some food can castles but it is about 2 hours and voluntary.
Had one interviewer come in 20 minutes late for a 30 minute interview. I told him to not bother considering me, as I don't want to work with/for a company whose employees have such little regard for other peoples' time. I wasn't that desperate.
Holy cow, people. You all have some horrible experiences!!!
I have been told "family atmosphere" and it did not mean you work there 24/7, it really meant, they were like that; they had picnics all together on weekends and lots of PAID work events where family members could attend on a voluntary basis (I did not)
My current job has a ping pong table and people play during breaks or if they show up early for their shift.
It is fast paced because a lot of things change all the time so you have to be flexible - doesnt have anything to do with overtime. I dont do any overtime and it is fast paced
We do support our community - once a year build some food can castles but it is about 2 hours and voluntary.
I have worked for myself for thirty years, both in starting and growing two businesses and acting as a consultant. As the consultant, I've had to clean up a lot of companies, which means I've sat in on a LOT of clients interviewing prospective hires. More than once, I've had to have 'the talk' with one of my clients who couldn't understand why their employees were leaving in droves. "Well, would YOU work here?" is the question I'd ask.
Had one interviewer come in 20 minutes late for a 30 minute interview. I told him to not bother considering me, as I don't want to work with/for a company whose employees have such little regard for other peoples' time. I wasn't that desperate.
Good idea. It's a common tactic to see what they can get away with. I literally had one client state that he would deliberately mispronounce the last time to see how long it took for the interviewee to correct him. That was his barometer on how desperate that prospective hire was. I told him that was a crappy way to judge people. Needless to say, he wasn't my client very long after that.
You got up and left in the middle of an interview "several times???" Sounds like you are the problem, not the interviewers.
Not necessarily
I got up and walked out of interviews. One interview the guy doing the interview was so rude and hostile that I got up and said thank you and left. See here is th3 thing. I’m applying for a position. If you’re gonna be a douche when I’m trying to make a decision to work somewhere you’re not endearing yourself by acting like a Ahole. Just because you have the company doesn’t mean I don’t bring anything to the table.
Another time the guy was great. But his partner kept barging in the interview. Never once apologized or showed any sort of apologetic behavior. Would just barge in and start asking questions. Not at me. Bu5 he never once acknowledged I was even in the room. Again just because you are mr big shot first mean it’s ok. My time is also valuable and I don’t like having it wasted. I basically got up and said why don’t you have your secretary call me and we can reschedule at a better time. It seems that you’re time is being monopolized right now. I went on the interview because THEY called ME to take a 3 million dollar job and run it. I didn’t need the work and I sure as **** didn’t need to have my day wasted.
My take on the partner.....complete *******. Type of guy who thinks the world revolves around him. Funny thing is they contacted me again and I did go to work for them. Didn’t last long. The other owner was exactly the way I thought he would be. I refuse to deal with people that simply think they know better because they have money. I was later contacted by a headhunter a d revealed the company. I told him I rather be homeless eating garbage than ever work for that company.
What employers don’t realize is that there are plenty of good hard working employees out there. When I had my shop I treated my employees like gold. Because good ones are hard to find. I hired and fired people in my lifetime. But I never barged in a interview and I never mistreated, dismissed or ignored a person because they were applying for a job.
As far as the typical descriptions I never used them or bs’ed people. As far as oay I never played games. I told everyone what I could pay start. If I felt the person was worth more because they worked hard I paid more
fast paced environment-were Gina work you till you’re fingers bleed
Multicultural-we have a token black guy
Family owned- you’ll never be promoted to management but a 19 yo nephew (with no experience in the job)of the owner will boss you and your 20 years of experience around.
Work hard play hard- you’ll kill yourself so your 19 yo supervisor gets a new company car. Yes it’s a Mustang GT. YOU work hard WE play hard
Fun environment- a chained slave on a Roman galley ship got water breaks. You won’t even have that. Row you bastard row. The Owner needs a new mansion.
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We need you to be flexible = Your job roles/responsibilities will not be clearly defined but you'll still be held responsible
This one to me says "you'd better be ready to come to the office whenever we need you or to work late or have your schedule change."
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Originally Posted by MinivanDriver
"Fast paced" = One of three things: Sorely understaffed, chaotic workflow, or a sales team that always overpromises. Or maybe a toxic combination of all three.
"We're more like a family" = Uh oh. That means you're going to have to go above and beyond without any reasonable expectation of commensurate pay out of some mysterious, almost feudal code of family honor. The CEO will make all kinds of boneheaded decisions that everybody has to live with. It also means that you'll have to endlessly socialize with other staff members. And, by the way, your mom and dad aren't going to fire you from the family.
"Visionary leadership" = You have a CEO with severe ADHD who is constantly pulling random stuff out of his ass at 3:30 pm on Friday, wanting to see it on his desk by 9 a.m. Monday.
"We have a [basketball court/pinball machine in the breakroom/other random amenities]" = If you're ever actually caught using those before 8 pm at night, you'll hear about it in your next employee review.
"Start up opportunity" = Not only are we starved for cash, but the owner was too stupid to ask the bank for a decent line of credit when asking for the small business loan.
"We are looking for committed individuals" = Hope you like working weekends.
"In six months, you'll see opportunities open up for promotion" = You will die at the same oars that were issued to you the day you boarded this slave ship.
"You are empowered to make your own decisions" = In other words, we are throwing all responsibility in your lap and will endlessly nitpick your decisions, even if it was the right one
"Close-knit office" = The president is banging half the women who work there.
"We like to support our community'" = You will be shanghaied into building houses for Habitat for Humanity at least 2-3 weekends a year.
"We are a faith-based company" = Hoo boy. First, every single word you say will be parsed to see how it measures up to someone's inner moral code. You'll start staff meetings with prayers and face relentless pressure to attend Bible study on your lunch hour. In conversations by the water cooler, you'll be asked about where you go to church as if it's their damned business. And, if it isn't whatever fundamentalist Church of What's Happening Now your boss and his minions attend, you'll always be on the outside looking in. Speaking of, buoyed by his sense of self-preening righteousness, the CEO will make decisions regarding pay and benefits that would make Ebeneezer Scrooge look up and say, "Damn, that's cold." Yet, he'll periodically have to take his laptop off to get debugged from whatever porn site he likes to visit when the doors are closed to his office.
"The customer is always right" = "We desperately need your business and we'll suck your d*ck to get it."
LOL. I read some of these differently:
"We're more like a family": We will expect you to be super-close to everyone, you're not allowed to dislike or not get along with anyone, you need to be cool with everyone all up in your personal life, and celebrate all the weddings and baby showers and kids' graduation parties and maybe even do stuff together outside of work.
"Visionary leadership": Our leadership is way out there from how leadership usually is but we prefer to see it as avant-garde rather than cracked or nutters or incompetent.
"We have a [basketball court/pinball machine in the breakroom/other random amenities]": We expect you to spend so much time here that we need to have some leisure equipment/we're trying to look "cool" to make up for all the BS here.
"Start up opportunity": We work long hours for almost no pay and you'd better cash your paycheck quick because the coffers are low again, and we'd like you to think you're getting in on the ground floor of somethign that will take off and make you a millionaire but really you might just slave away until it fails.
"We are looking for committed individuals": Please don't leave quickly like so many people do (whom we then see as flaky rather than considering whether there is something going on here).
"In six months, you'll see opportunities open up for promotion": We are going to dangle this carrot (usually because we know the job we're hiring you for is an entry-level pile of dung). You may or may not see opportunities for promotion. You may or may not have a snowball's chance in hell of being promoted. There may or may not be a ton of people clamoring for a couple promotions. (Or, alternately, it could mean "our turnover is so high it's almost guaranteed that there are going to be openings soon.")
"You are empowered to make your own decisions": You're not going to get any direction from your boss or training; good luck.
"Close-knit office": See "we're like a family" above.
"The customer is always right": It doesn't matter how unreasonable or jerky the customer is, we will never take your side. Ever. IOW: you are always wrong.
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Originally Posted by Ron61
Sorry...but who wears clogs to any job interview where they honestly expect to make a good impression? Hate to tell you this, but when it comes to landing a great job, your appearance speaks loud and clear about you. You can have an impeccable resume, but not get past the initial phase because of the way you present yourself. You don’t have to agree with that or even like it, but it’s the truth.
Do you know what Dansko clogs look like? They're essentially just slip-on shoes. This person didn't show up in bright-pink plastic Crocs.
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