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Old 09-19-2018, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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I've gotten hundreds of e-mails into (criminal) trials. Like any other document, an e-mail just has to be authenticated by a witness. On cross examination the opposing side can try to destroy your witness; destroying the witness's credibility calls any document that witness authenticated into question.

If the author and/or sender authenticates the e-mail, that is all it is good for - this e-mail was sent. If you don't have a witness on the receiving side, you can't show anyone actually read it. (Actually, with enough subpoenas and money you can generally get that information, but it takes forever and would cost you a fortune.)
Unless there has been correspondence back and forth between the parties. Then, it becomes an acceptable form of communication, and it doesn't matter if you prove someone actually read it. That would be assumed.

And then the court would look at the preponderance of the evidence. If there has been regular correspondence via email, and an email was sent with information that was later used by the person the email was sent to - what would a reasonable person think happened? What is more likely than not to have occurred? The person who was on the other end of an email with an idea happened to come up with the same idea afterwards? Not likely.

Yes, this would involve hiring a lawyer. But, I disagree that the OP would have to prove the recipient actually read the email, as I've explained above.
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Old 09-20-2018, 06:28 AM
 
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Explain the deal. You give them ideas and in return you should have received what? It sounds like they needed ideas and you gave them some. Nothing illegal about that.
Exactly. If the deal was the OP provides ideas for as amount of money, all they have to do is satisfy the contract terms. Of course, this assumes a written agreement
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Old 09-20-2018, 07:56 AM
 
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"Ideas" are not subject to copyright protection under U.S. law. How fleshed out are these "ideas" that you are providing?
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Old 09-20-2018, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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SMTP is not a secure protocol. You can never prove that a recipient received your email. If you receive one, the only way you can prove who sent it is if it was digitally signed, and the only way you can prove it was not altered is if it was encrypted.

Email is not evidence of anything other than you say you sent something; or received something that said something with zero confidence as to who actually sent it, who might have changed it, who has read it, etc.
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Old 09-20-2018, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Central Virginia
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"Ideas" are not subject to copyright protection under U.S. law. How fleshed out are these "ideas" that you are providing?
Ideas, aka intellectual property, are subject to protection.

"What is Intellectual Property Law?

Intellectual property law deals with the rules for securing and enforcing legal rights to inventions, designs, and artistic works. Just as the law protects ownership of personal property and real estate, so too does it protect the exclusive control of intangible assets. The purpose of these laws is to give an incentive for people to develop creative works that benefit society, by ensuring they can profit from their works without fear of misappropriation by others.

Article I, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution gives Congress express authority to grant authors and inventors exclusive rights to their creations."

https://www.hg.org/intell.html
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Old 09-20-2018, 11:57 AM
 
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Ideas, aka intellectual property, are subject to protection.

"What is Intellectual Property Law?

Intellectual property law deals with the rules for securing and enforcing legal rights to inventions, designs, and artistic works. Just as the law protects ownership of personal property and real estate, so too does it protect the exclusive control of intangible assets. The purpose of these laws is to give an incentive for people to develop creative works that benefit society, by ensuring they can profit from their works without fear of misappropriation by others.

Article I, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution gives Congress express authority to grant authors and inventors exclusive rights to their creations."

https://www.hg.org/intell.html

No, IDEAS are not copyrightable! That is why I asked how much you had fleshed out the idea before presenting it.

Since you prefer internet sources that you misinterpret to people who actually know what they are talking about, here you go:

Protecting Ideas: Can Ideas Be Protected or Patented? - IPWatchdog.com | Patents & Patent Law
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Old 09-23-2018, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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What do you guys think? Am I being crazy or are my concerns valid? In the case that my worst fears are true can the email I sent this person with the ideas be used in a court of law? Thank you!
Yes, there's actually a name for it: Electronic Discovery.

When you file a Complaint, the Defendant(s) have a limited time to answer the Complaint. That varies by State, anywhere from 14 days to 30 days. If the Defendant(s) reside outside of your State, or do not conduct business in your State, for reasons of jurisdiction and venue, your attorney may file the Complaint in a federal district court. The time limit to file an answer in all federal district courts is 30 days, however federal government agencies have 60 days to answer.

If your case is strong enough, your attorney may elect to file a Motion for Summary Judgment, but if not, then s/he will immediately proceed to Discovery. The Defendant(s) are likely to file a Motion to Dismiss.

Some States, like Ohio, allow you to initiate Discovery before a Complaint is ever filed. Your attorney will know the Rules of Evidence and Procedure for your State (or federal court).

During the Discovery phase, your attorney will send notices to certain individuals to appear for a deposition, which is likely to be video-taped. They'll also send a series of questions known as Interrogatories. Admissions are part of Discovery, too. The format of Admissions is for Defendant to admit or deny certain statements:

Admit that on this date at this time, you received an e-mail from Complainant with "Subject: Project X" discussing this content.

For document production, the Defendant will submit copies of all files, documents, typed or hand-written notes, memos, communiques, drafts, company policies and procedures, meeting minutes, maps, drawings and diagrams and the like.

For Electronic Discovery, all relevant electronic files from desk-tops, lap-tops, notebooks, Blackberries and other PDAs, smart-phones and cell-phones.

While reviewing that material, if it should happen that your attorney has a copy of an e-mail from you, but can't find that copy of the e-mail delivered by the Defendant, that is sufficient grounds for a judge to issue a "box order."

A "box order" is exactly what it sounds like. The judge orders the Defendant(s) to box up all of their desk-tops, lap-tops, notebooks, Blackberries and other PDAs, smart-phones and cell-phones and ship them to your attorney, or if your attorney has already hired a forensic computer analyst, to their office for analysis.

Your subject matter involves Intellectual Property Rights.

That is a very complex issue of law, and it is complex in part, because it's still evolving. It's still evolving because the States and federal government are still enacting laws, rules and regulations governing the matter, and because courts are still setting precedents in their decisions.

It may be several more years, perhaps even a decade or two, before it becomes settled law.

When you talk to an attorney, and you're going to need one that specializes in Intellectual Property Rights, you might want to raise the issue of Contracts, too.

A Bilateral Contract is a promise for a promise. Did you make an offer and they accept, or did they make an offer and did you accept, and what was the consideration and who has legal capacity.

It doesn't sound like you actually know who you're dealing with. It could be an employee of the production company, or an independent contractor, or a 3rd Party agent. Independent contractors generally don't have the authority to enter into contracts, but it's possible the production company ratified the contract. Ratification does not need to be in writing, because actions alone can be sufficient to show ratification.

You should consider the possibility the person you're dealing with is on vacation. I wouldn't answer my e-mails, either.

But, if they're location scouting for sites to film, or out of the office on other business, they should be responding, so I can see why you're paranoid.

Print out all of the e-mail correspondence and take it with you when you visit an attorney. They should be able to tell you whether or not you have a valid claim, and if a contract exists.
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Old 09-29-2018, 01:17 PM
 
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Old 10-03-2018, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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When you file a Complaint, If the Defendant(s) reside outside of your State, or do not conduct business in your State, for reasons of jurisdiction and venue, your attorney may file the Complaint in a federal district court.
Diversity Actions require a specific dollar amount. Residing in different state is not the only criteria.
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