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Old 12-06-2017, 09:28 AM
 
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If it's one person, you might be able to overcome it. If it's half of your superiors, you'll probably never be able to overcome it. You might be able to hang around for years even, but you'll get the short end of the stick.
This. If it's just one supervisor giving you a hard time, there's a modicum of hope. It still sounds like a toxic workplace, based on your description, unfortunately.

I would start looking again for employment elsewhere. As for leaving right now, like your wife suggested, only the two of you know if that's an affordable option. There have been times when I would've done that and not looked back if money hadn't been an issue.
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Old 12-06-2017, 10:08 AM
 
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This. If it's just one supervisor giving you a hard time, there's a modicum of hope. It still sounds like a toxic workplace, based on your description, unfortunately.

I would start looking again for employment elsewhere. As for leaving right now, like your wife suggested, only the two of you know if that's an affordable option. There have been times when I would've done that and not looked back if money hadn't been an issue.
Sometimes there's discussions of how work differs from school.

This, to me ... is the #1 way in which school differs from work.

In school, your progress is being tracked numerically and it's the teacher's job to make sure you improve.

At work, when you make a mistake that a person deems large enough, they won't attempt to help you improve. They'll just call you an idiot or incompetent behind your back until you quit or get fired.

Fun times...

Unfortunately, if that one person is a high ranking person who distributes a lot of the work, you may already be dead in the water. Just the way work is.
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Old 12-06-2017, 10:23 AM
 
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In school, your progress is being tracked numerically and it's the teacher's job to make sure you improve.
Yeah, and that's because the students' success directly affects the teachers' job. Students not succeeding = teacher in danger of losing his/her job at some point. In that way, the workplace isn't all that different from school, because good managers know they succeed when their employees succeed. Sh*t managers either don't know, or don't care.
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Old 12-06-2017, 10:24 AM
 
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My wife says to leave now. A part of me wants to stick it out until I either get fired (its not a matter of if, but when) or find a new job.
I would suck it up and stay put until I have another job.
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Old 12-06-2017, 11:56 AM
 
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Yeah, and that's because the students' success directly affects the teachers' job. Students not succeeding = teacher in danger of losing his/her job at some point. In that way, the workplace isn't all that different from school, because good managers know they succeed when their employees succeed. Sh*t managers either don't know, or don't care.
I don't think most teachers teach for a paycheck. I understand that in some states (mine especially) they get paid quite well and get great benefits, but in general, they want to help students.

Also, the job is designed to help students. It's in the title of the job. 'Teach'er. Lol.

Managers will just use another employee they trust more instead of trying to give constructive criticism. So, when/if it gets to that point OP's boss will just refuse to use OP or try and pawn him off on another supervisor. Or they will lay him off.
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Old 12-06-2017, 12:01 PM
 
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Looks like it's time to start looking.

Don't quit, wait to be fired (unless you find a job first) If you quit, you can't get Unemployment benefits.

Why did you leave bad boss for a 35K cit in salary??
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Old 12-06-2017, 12:17 PM
 
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Don't leave until you have another job.

Let your boss know how you feel and that it may be impacting your mojo, and thereby, your sales level.
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Old 12-06-2017, 03:30 PM
 
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It seems obvious to me, find another job now before you are fired. Why is this even a question for you?
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Old 12-06-2017, 03:41 PM
 
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I would suggest re visiting some of your strong skills and going in another career field. Sales is shark infested and rarely open to kindness. It's all about the numbers. Yuck to the micro management style. Gain back your integrity and express to the eaves droppers to respect your privacy when speaking with a prospect. I'd hang up on any sales rep who's boss was monitoring his pitch. That is just my way of doing business.
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Old 12-06-2017, 03:57 PM
 
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A sad tale. And probably a mistake. You should have stuck it out and figured out how to manage your boss. This is a subject not taught in school but must be learned. I've had bosses out to get me and I figured out how to evade their moves and give it back to them in a way that left me better off. I've had bosses so demanding I thought I was going to lose my mind and figured out how to deal with their unrealistc and unrelenting demands. I've been demoted and worked my way into a much better situation. Quitting because of a bad boss is like giving into a bully. Win, lose or draw it's better to stay and stick up for yourself.
In your present situation look for a new job, don't get fired. A termination on your record is something that can follow you for years and won't make your situation any better.
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