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Old 11-24-2017, 07:20 AM
 
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Hello all,

Four months into a new job. Boss is horrible. Passive-aggressive coworkers. Competitive. Very toxic environment. Completely unorganized.

My boss and his boss know that there are issues on the team. Yet they refuse to address them. Also, the work that I am currently doing is nothing like what my job description encompasses or what they told me I would be doing in my interviews.

There are several good positions within my company that I would like to explore. 100% sure that any experience would be better than what I am currently having to deal with.

Our company has a policy that in order to complete formal interviews for a team we must apply on an internal system. Once we apply our current boss is notified.

I'm in an interesting predicament because:
1. I really don't trust my boss to be supportive of me moving to a new team
2. My team won't be able to hire a replacement for at least 6 months.
3. Despite all the warning signs things continue to get worse

At the end of the day, I just don't think things will ever improve.

Can any of you offer suggestions on how and when I can let my boss know that I am interested in a transfer?

Also, what can I say to the teams I am interviewing with when they ask me why I am looking to leave?


Any insight is welcomed.

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Old 11-24-2017, 08:22 AM
 
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Where I work you would not be eligible for transfer for 12-18 months minimum. I would suggest you learn to deal with it for awhile or leave the company (find a new job first).
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Old 11-24-2017, 08:38 AM
 
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There is no easy way around this. Your boss will eventually be notify. The company you work for will be under the impression that why can't you make the team better, and they don't care about your well being. The upper management probably knows that the team you are in is not in good shape, but they still let it slide. In order for you to make the transfer happen, you have to seek for approval from upper management because they are the one that is likely to approve or deny your transfer. I am not saying you should go behind your boss, but you need to make good impression for the other team manager to want to bring you over to their team. If there is any chance that you can assist with other team with some work, even if it means staying late and doing some overtime(paid or unpaid) to show why they should bring you over on their team, then do it. If you are in a work environment where your works are strictly within your team, then trying to make the transfer would be impossible.
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Old 11-24-2017, 08:43 AM
 
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Company policy states that employees are free to switch teams after 1 month. So no issues on that end.

I've done fantastic work in the time I have been with the team. Just been three months of non stop chaos.

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Old 11-24-2017, 09:01 AM
 
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Good luck, especially if anyone on your current management team is prone to vindictiveness. My advice would be to find a different employer. I am experiencing a similar situation and have decided it's not in my best interest to remain with an employer that would allow a rotten team to fester. It's bigger than your current team and speaks to the employer's ethics and willingness to handle issues stemming from bad management.
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Old 11-24-2017, 09:04 AM
 
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Good luck, especially if anyone on your current management team is prone to vindictiveness. My advice would be to find a different employer. I am experiencing a similar situation and have decided it's not in my best interest to remain with an employer that would allow a rotten team to fester. It's bigger than your current team and speaks to the employer's ethics and willingness to handle issues stemming from bad management.
Great advice. I have 2-3 other options I am considering outside of the organization as well. Really hurts that I have to worry about the vindictiveness as you mentioned. Very much want to stay within the same company.
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Old 11-24-2017, 09:19 AM
 
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Really hurts that I have to worry about the vindictiveness as you mentioned. Very much want to stay within the same company.
So do I. I had been trying to work for my employer since I graduated from college. It's very difficult to get hired here. There are so many opportunities available, and I could have had a good career. It's too bad a miserable, psychotic person decided they would ruin it before I even knew what was going on. I understand that employers will protect the company (thus protecting inept management), but I do not understand protecting someone who is causing major problems at multiple levels. The employer should have known something was wrong when they saw how much turnover my team has. There would have to be a major overhaul in "corporate" management in order for there to be any significant change, and that is a Herculean task that would take year and years of work. It's just not worth it for me. I really hope your situation works out and someone realizes that you're a good employee who just got stuck in a bad situation.
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Old 11-24-2017, 09:25 AM
 
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Good luck, especially if anyone on your current management team is prone to vindictiveness. My advice would be to find a different employer. I am experiencing a similar situation and have decided it's not in my best interest to remain with an employer that would allow a rotten team to fester. It's bigger than your current team and speaks to the employer's ethics and willingness to handle issues stemming from bad management.
This.

Start looking as you already are doing.
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Old 11-24-2017, 09:39 AM
 
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Company policy states that employees are free to switch teams after 1 month. So no issues on that end.

I've done fantastic work in the time I have been with the team. Just been three months of non stop chaos.
Well you have to find a good reason that you can use to switch teams WITHOUT denigrating your current team or manager.

Such as ~ I've always to learn (insert desire here) and I can do that on this new team. I can tell you a different team in the same company can make a lot of difference. But you have to do it properly and without alienating anyone. And that is a fine line to walk
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Old 11-24-2017, 11:07 AM
 
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Hello all,

Four months into a new job. Boss is horrible. Passive-aggressive coworkers. Competitive. Very toxic environment. Completely unorganized.

My boss and his boss know that there are issues on the team. Yet they refuse to address them. Also, the work that I am currently doing is nothing like what my job description encompasses or what they told me I would be doing in my interviews.

There are several good positions within my company that I would like to explore. 100% sure that any experience would be better than what I am currently having to deal with.

Our company has a policy that in order to complete formal interviews for a team we must apply on an internal system. Once we apply our current boss is notified.

I'm in an interesting predicament because:
1. I really don't trust my boss to be supportive of me moving to a new team
2. My team won't be able to hire a replacement for at least 6 months.
3. Despite all the warning signs things continue to get worse

At the end of the day, I just don't think things will ever improve.

Can any of you offer suggestions on how and when I can let my boss know that I am interested in a transfer?

Also, what can I say to the teams I am interviewing with when they ask me why I am looking to leave?


Any insight is welcomed.
This is a tough one. With that said, schedule a meeting with your boss to discuss how your efforts have benefitted the business. Expand that conversation and talk about how you'd like to explore opportunities within the company where you feel that you can (1) continue to bring value in a new role, (2) gain exposure to another functional area within the business, and (3) satisfy your need to be challenged. Keep it positive. While doing this, freshen your resume and get it on the street.
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