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Old 09-12-2014, 02:39 PM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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ISIS is the new Al Qaeda we have feared since their fall. I agree many end up like a hydra but I am not so sure that pulling out will help or hurt. If you think the interest is truly oil, than I got oceanfront property in Arizona to sell you.
Certainly, any involvement in the Middle East starts with the world distribution of oil and gas. One might argue about Iran's nuclear capability, Syria's chemical weapons and a constant threat to Israel as ancillary interests but oil is still king. How many conflicts can we possibly participate in between we're spread to too thin ?
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Old 09-12-2014, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Where the heart is...
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Please understand that companies work for profits, not people. Why do you think companies are outsourcing jobs to third world countries & hiring immigrants to work here in USA? Outsourcing is not just limited to telemarketing, call center, manufacturing jobs. A lot of white collar jobs are also being shipped overseas.
The bottom line is for profit; Shareholders are people and companies and corporations answer to those people.
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Old 09-12-2014, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Certainly, any involvement in the Middle East starts with the world distribution of oil and gas. One might argue about Iran's nuclear capability, Syria's chemical weapons and a constant threat to Israel as ancillary interests but oil is still king. How many conflicts can we possibly participate in between we're spread to too thin ?
Israel is just a money interest to provide weapons. Iraq I think was more of a legacy issue that Bush had. As I mentioned, in Desert Storm, we knew of possible chemical and biological weapons in Iraq AND ethnic cleansing, yet all we did was free Kuwait (possibly for oil but who really knows.)
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Old 09-12-2014, 03:35 PM
 
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"We're not talking about existing government jobs, but new jobs. Jobs at the city, county, state and federal level are needed to repair outdated infrastructure."

But that also depends as to the locality. Most government buildings are local, not federal or state. In my town we just approved three school roofs to repair the old ones.

"Never considered prisoners as slaves ... but given the volume of prisoners today, reopen some of the obsolete manufacturing facilities, bring the work home, and let the prisoners build the trinkets. Why pay overseas transportation costs when the "slave" labor could be done by prisoners at home ? "

It is illegal for the use of the products listed for any commercial purpose so no they cannot at least within Mass be used for that.


"How much are the Europeans paying for a gallon of gas ? Are they rioting every time the price goes up a few cents ? "

No but that's because the Marshall plan was largely used to rebuild Europe and thus provided them the incentives for their social benefit packages and their defenses from the US.

So yes our policies have direct ramifications on the world. Much of Europe runs off of Brent which is about 10-15% more then NYMEX. They also have much more in the way of public transportation and thus are not apt to own much for vehicles.

"Please educate yourself as to the true causes of WWII as you keep consuming and keep a full plate of rice on Chinese tables.

World War Two - Causes | HistoryOnTheNet"

Um no. sorry. That is a nice 6th grade version of it but there is much more to it. I have a license to teach history so yes this is a readers digest version of it.

Here's a few other things to remember.

Orlando of Italy was promised colonies to have Italy join the allies in WW 1. This gave an excuse for the Ethopian invasion.

Germany already controlled half of Poland prior to the invasion per the pact with the USSr
Molotov

After ww 1 German occupied cities in China were given to Japan. This coupled with nationalism and sanctions as a result created more conflicts.
Events leading to the attack on Pearl Harbor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Tariffs don't win anything just as sanctions don't help anything. The country then blames economic conditions on another country and uses that to consolidate power. Cuba, Iran and North Korea do this every day. If it was just about costs we would have fixed things by now. the fact of the matter remains is that we live in more of a post consumer society. Making things is nice but it is marginal. How many cars does someone need? How many tv's? How many rooms in a house etc? Since everything is smaller and lighter it is hard to argue that somehow we can make things "again" when we already have enough.
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Old 09-12-2014, 04:04 PM
 
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Excess capacity to build bridges, roads, etc. Don't get hung up on money, that's a red herring. Money is just a counting mechanism administered by the government to match up consumption and production. If we have unemployed construction workers to do the work, the government can create money more-or-less out of thin air to "afford" the work.

It's really very simple. We have work to be done. We have the resources and people literally just laying around. Have people get resources to do work.
It would be simple but the fact of the matter is you do have standards in terms of quality and scope of work. Procurement can be complicated once you have different methods by which to evaulate. Is it invitation for bid or request for quotes?

Do we judge a project on quality or efficiency or cost?

Can government create money from thin air? Yes but then we end up where we were in the 70's when that process failed. Inflation rises and always hurts the poor more then anyone else.
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Old 09-12-2014, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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It would be simple but the fact of the matter is you do have standards in terms of quality and scope of work. Procurement can be complicated once you have different methods by which to evaulate. Is it invitation for bid or request for quotes?

Do we judge a project on quality or efficiency or cost?

Can government create money from thin air? Yes but then we end up where we were in the 70's when that process failed. Inflation rises and always hurts the poor more then anyone else.
The 70's are no worse or better than it is right now. The only thing that changed are the names.
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Old 09-12-2014, 05:41 PM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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It would be simple but the fact of the matter is you do have standards in terms of quality and scope of work. Procurement can be complicated once you have different methods by which to evaulate. Is it invitation for bid or request for quotes?

Do we judge a project on quality or efficiency or cost?

Can government create money from thin air? Yes but then we end up where we were in the 70's when that process failed. Inflation rises and always hurts the poor more then anyone else.
Once again, the government does not need to create money from thin air ... the government needs to reduce the amount of money sent overseas and reallocate the same to projects and jobs at home.
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Old 09-12-2014, 05:46 PM
 
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If you want a good first step in the right direction for the jobs that are currently available, you have to take the ability of hiring out of the employers hands. Shut down online application systems, stop doing credit checks, stop doing personality tests, stop the nepotism, stop the popularity contest interview tactics. Basically you gotta shut down the whole hiring process SYSTEM and just hire people who are qualified. Stop all the nonsense and get people to work. But the sociopathic human rejects (HR) won't let that happen because it means they have to give up their control.
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Old 09-12-2014, 05:56 PM
 
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As for hiring people that are just qualified I get that to a point but when you accept finances from a given organization you are tied to the terms and conditions of such.

"the government needs to reduce the amount of money sent overseas and reallocate the same to projects and jobs at home."

Perhaps but at the same point each day the government has to sell bonds to keep the value of the dollar afloat. The early 70's with the opec crisis was really caused by the drop of the gold standard.

There are projects here and there all over the country. However you might not physically see it because frankly just because something is built does not mean people flock to it. We had a housing bubble and there are still millions of empty homes. Massive production can causes prices to drop sometimes to the point where producers destroy product. It's happened before.
Atari games found in a New Mexico landfill will be given to museums and sold on eBay | The Verge
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Old 09-12-2014, 06:06 PM
 
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We need to make it easier for people to get jobs. Not harder. Right now businesses and HR people are trying to make it as hard as possible for people to get hired by putting up so many barriers.
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