Relative looking for unskilled factory job, help! (jobs, companies, insurance)
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For anyone that thinks college is the answer, that's not necessarily so. I'm a college grad and I make less than $12 per hour. Meanwhile I know someone that graduated with a two year degree. She probably makes close to $30 per hour by now. She's an RN.
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Those days are long gone. Back when I was a kid living in the Rochester, N.Y. area Kodak was THE factory job to have. There were a few other large factory employers but Kodak paid well enough to live a nice middle class life. I remember every year the newspaper was filled with "Kodak bonus sales" advertisements. Now Kodak is on its death bed.
I currently live in middle Tennessee. There are quite a few large factory opportunities for people BUT they aren't what they used to be. Nissan recently expanded its factory but nearly ALL of the new hires they brought in are temps making 13 dollars an hour. The GM plant in Spring hill has been hiring but starting workers at 15 dollars an hour. Bridgestone shut down its passenger tire production in 2009 and reduced the workforce during the downturn in its truck tire operations. They started hiring new production workers starting at 13 dollars an hour. The workers USED to start at 20+ dollars an hour.
Looking at the auto suppliers in the area the typical unskilled factory job is paying between 12 to 8 dollars an hour.
Back when I was a kid a man could go to work at one of these factory jobs and his wife could stay home and raise their kids. The family could afford a home and two cars on one income. You can't do that now.
I'm from west TN. I always thought the economy was much better in middle TN. There's certainly no job growth here.
So? Most professional positions regularly feature 45-60 hour weeks as salaried, exempt positions.A 48 hour average per week allows 120 hours for other activities.
I think you are missing my point Bob. Wages are declining and have been for years. It isn't about the hours worked, it is about the wages. When jobs are paying 25% less than they did 10 years ago something is very wrong with our economy. If you combine the cost of living increase over the past ten years with this wage decrease an average worker has seen close to a 50% decrease in purchasing power.
Only 54% of 18 to 24 year olds have a job or are in school. That means 46% of these young people that SHOULD be doing something with their lives are sitting in their parents basement playing video games.
People wonder why so many people are on food stamps and other welfare programs.
There has been no real growth in jobs for years. The majority of jobs are sub- 10 dollar an hour service sector jobs in food service, retail and low end bed pan cleaning health care. Is this helpful to our economy? I can't believe so many people are defending "Low wage America" and are accepting it with open arms. It WILL have an affect on your life regardless of what you do for a living. 70% of our economy in consumer driven. If half our workforce is earning just enough to survive they will not be buying new cars, they will not be able to buy a home, they will not be spending anything extra.
My nephew looked into working in one place in Baltimore and he said there were hundreds of applicants for a job that paid about $10.00 an hour. He said it is relatively easy to get a job at a grocery store or other retail or restaurant business but these jobs rarely are full time and have less benefits. So if a guaranteed full time job for unskilled poorly educated workers come up, they will get over 100 applicants. Back in "my day" when I was his age, the factories were begging for workers and offered great benefits.
Back in "my day" when I graduated from High School in the 1960s, many of the kids I had gone to school with went straight from High School to the factory and made enough money to bring up a family. There were factory jobs for everyone who wanted to work. The work was boring, physically difficult, tedious, and some times dangerous. But it was steady work for good pay.
They started at the factory with absolutely no skills or training or specific aptitude, but the company did not care. They just wanted workers. There were no extensive pre employment tests, complex background investigations, or employment verifications. If you wanted to work, they wanted you!
Maybe my 19 year old nephew was born 40 years too late, but he would be a perfect person for that era. He wants to work for a company doing work in a factory and or an assembly line.
In your hometown is there any factory jobs available for a recent High School Graduate with no skills or post high school training/education? What type of job would it be and how much would it pay? And is it hard to find a job like this?
Check out indeed dot com for him, or tell him about it, they list some entry level positions there.
This is for my area.
Experience: Must have at least 1-3 years of production-related experience. Five or more years in a factory environment preferred. Experience in the Food and Beverage manufacturing industry preferred.
It's the same way out here, there's just no way for young people to get their foot in the door. We are going to have a huge chunk of a generation with limited or no work experience.
Experience: Must have at least 1-3 years of production-related experience. Five or more years in a factory environment preferred. Experience in the Food and Beverage manufacturing industry preferred.
It's the same way out here, there's just no way for young people to get their foot in the door. We are going to have a huge chunk of a generation with limited or no work experience.
You mean a multi national corporation wants heavily qualified people? Of course they can require those things, they pay better and have better benefits than most production related jobs and can afford to be choosy. As you have been told multiple times, if you want a job in production go find a labor ready, they will send you out to some crappy little warehouse that will put you to work for next to nothing, but if you stick with it a while you may actually be able to get a decent job.
I'm gonna keep experimenting with looking for a company that will teach me a trade if I work for free for a while. So far nobody has the guts to take me on.
I'm gonna keep experimenting with looking for a company that will teach me a trade if I work for free for a while. So far nobody has the guts to take me on.
It's not about guts; it's about liability and labor laws.
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It's not about guts; it's about liability and labor laws.
True, unpaid internships have taken a beating in the courts recently. Most companies I worked with wouldn't touch them anymore as of about 6 months ago.
Most companies will not "hire" somebody to work for free for one important reason... They want someone competent, who can learn the first time around. That's not the type who works for free. Smart people know that having a brain and a work ethic is worth more than nothing, or even minimum wage.
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