Why are people afraid of Commission only work ? (analysis, payment, find a job)
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There's plenty if you are serious? Seach linkedin job sales your metro area, career builder has some decent ones. Forget Monster and Craigs List unless you are looking for cell phone sales. You might want to start with inside sales
Yes, I was serious. But I could have been more descriptive.
Many companies are not on the up and up, or there are the companies that only want you if you have had 10 years of experience. I am sure pharma sales is a tough nut to crack, but there must be something else with a lower barrier of entry.
So since OP posted this in a general work forum, there should be more tips for people who want to get into this type of work. If you have little to no sales experience, where are you to get a commission job that is going to give a steady income? That turns the post into something helpful as opposed to this arrogant self-love fest.
You have given a good tip- start with inside sales. Thank you.
you are comparing two different type of sales people and sales positions. Maybe in your life and type of work you do, you have only had the opportunity to deal with low level sales people, like car sales, insurance sales etc... But when you are talking about business to business sales it is a whole different ballgame.
Sales people like Colorado is who I hire. I wouldn't give a car salesmen a chance to sell for me. In high end B2B sales, it is about addressing the needs of a customer, and helping them find a solution that will benefit them and working with them, to make their business more efficient.
Right now I'm dealing with b2b salespeople, not car salesmen or low-level sales. Yes, they're a bit less slimy, but I can still detect the oiliness and the glad handing.
That said, it's a rough position to be in. Either you're aggressive and push the sale, creeping some people out in the process, or you're not aggressive and you don't get the sale. Thus, I'm not in a commission-based job, because I'd never make money at it. Look, I've got a brother in law who's a natural salesman. He's the type who will get on a plane and immediately start up a conversation with the person sitting next to him. And not because he wants to make a sale, but because he's genuinely interested in other people. And then there's me: I sit next to a person I don't know on a plane and I don't want anything to do with that person (and get creeped out when that person starts talking to me). It has absolutely nothing to do with being a capitalist or being lazy, it's strictly personality-based.
Yes, I was serious. But I could have been more descriptive.
Many companies are not on the up and up, or there are the companies that only want you if you have had 10 years of experience. I am sure pharma sales is a tough nut to crack, but there must be something else with a lower barrier of entry.
So since OP posted this in a general work forum, there should be more tips for people who want to get into this type of work. If you have little to no sales experience, where are you to get a commission job that is going to give a steady income? That turns the post into something helpful as opposed to this arrogant self-love fest.
You have given a good tip- start with inside sales. Thank you.
Depending on what your $$$ requirments are you might try mobile phone sales. A former co-worker mentioned you could make $200 per new sign up and phone sale. I believe that was for Verizon direct stores. It's a growing market.
The other ones wich gave a ramp base for a few months or stipend depending on your view is insurance sales like State Farm, Farmers, and the financial company Edward Jones. I think EJ and even Wells Fargo will even give you a larger base for 6 months. The reason I am not doing these is because I don't have a huge network of friends and family that I want to pitch insurance or investments to. And I just prefer B2B sales.
drug dealer - sells you happiness and doesn't lie about it (unless the cocaine is mixed with rat poison but then you need to change dealers)
prostitute - sells you physical pleasure (not the meth using street walkers but the pro escorts)
some random immigrant who can't speak english selling ice cream or knockoff goods - sells you stuff he or she has no clue about like the lead in his toys he is peddling to little kids
which one of these salesmen is getting his worth? clearly all are "working" hard it seems. one requires some level of education, the banker. yet the drug dealer is the one who is getting the most value per sale because he is assuming the most risk. the second biggest risk is the prostitute, both because of disease (preventable as long as condoms are used or only handjob or footjob and such services are offered) as well as the craigslist killer.
it seems then that when you assume the most risk, you are worth the most in terms of commission.
I have worked commission only most of my career, I'm amazed at how many people fear commission only work.
I do have to watch some things because my income goes up and down depending on my work habits and the economy. So I budget my spending based on my past 6 months sales, I also learned to put away 1 years income as a buffer.
I see a lot of people come into the sales field and stay for as little as 2 weeks and just quit ! It literaly takes 3-4 months to become a good sales rep and to have a steady income. I know there are a lot of scam commission only jobs out there, but why would anyone quit a job before thay have given themselves half a chance ?
(I did not read all 8 pages)
never have. I like a steady, "known" income. I make more than some of the examples listed by other posters, so I'm happy.
why would anyone quit a job before thay have given themselves half a chance ?
because they feel comfortable "selling"
Right now I'm dealing with b2b salespeople, not car salesmen or low-level sales. Yes, they're a bit less slimy, but I can still detect the oiliness and the glad handing.
That said, it's a rough position to be in. Either you're aggressive and push the sale, creeping some people out in the process, or you're not aggressive and you don't get the sale. Thus, I'm not in a commission-based job, because I'd never make money at it. Look, I've got a brother in law who's a natural salesman. He's the type who will get on a plane and immediately start up a conversation with the person sitting next to him. And not because he wants to make a sale, but because he's genuinely interested in other people. And then there's me: I sit next to a person I don't know on a plane and I don't want anything to do with that person (and get creeped out when that person starts talking to me). It has absolutely nothing to do with being a capitalist or being lazy, it's strictly personality-based.
If you are dealing with 2 sales that are this way, then they are ones who will probably not make it in their industries. there is a difference between being pushy and giving someone a push. It may also be that because you have a preconceived notion about sales people you try and find something wrong with them.
I fully understand about having to be a natural sales person, and having to have the proper personality for it, I am not a sales person and I am sure I could never be. If I was, I could save a lot of money by not hiring a sales staff. But alas, I am not, so I have to continue spending money.
What most people seem to be saying is that they would love a 6 figure job as long as the risk was very limited.
Others are saying that they don't want to risk loosing out on the 6 figure and in many cases 7 figure opportunities and could not fathom a 9 to 5 gig.
For the working class they give up opportunity for security.
For the sales people they give up security for prosperity.
For the most part it would seem that those that hone their skills find both security and prosperity. I would add that because they rely on themselves to make it happen they have more security than those that don't sell.
What most people seem to be saying is that they would love a 6 figure job as long as the risk was very limited.
Others are saying that they don't want to risk loosing out on the 6 figure and in many cases 7 figure opportunities and could not fathom a 9 to 5 gig.
For the working class they give up opportunity for security.
For the sales people they give up security for prosperity.
For the most part it would seem that those that hone their skills find both security and prosperity. I would add that because they rely on themselves to make it happen they have more security than those that don't sell.
Or it has little to nothing to do with security and prosperity and more to do with being happy. I have no desire to be rich (and yet economically speaking I believe quite firmly in capitalism and free markets), and am wonderfully happy using the special skills I have to the best of my ability in a non-sales position. I rely on myself to keep the position I have and relied on myself to hone my skills to get the job I have. I trade my skills and services on the market for a yearly salary, I don't feel cheated of opportunity as a result.
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